[anti-abuse-wg] [Misc] Research project on blacklists
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Serge Droz
serge.droz at first.org
Thu Jul 18 08:03:38 CEST 2019
Hi Andreas I echo Barry's views on the research. Some valid points, but it's a pity that you tend to void them by mostly telling others that they are stupid. I like your idea about studying why certain practices occur. So why not find a University that is interested in starting a project on this? Best Serge On 18/07/2019 07:20, ac wrote: > > Oh. Lets look more at this then. > > "UC Berkeley" - USA > "International Computer Science Institute" > "evaluating and improving the accuracy of blacklists." > "including a web link, which is tracked and cross tracked" > "an anonymous survey" > > Dude, let us be frank: On this list we discuss abuse, in the open and > directly. People on this list has "skills" and can all be anonymous on > this list, if they wish to, in fact, many are. (I do not and I am not > private) > > We are talking about email blacklists? right? as the routing blacklists > do not bother the evil tech monopolies! > > It is a fact that the spam from the top ten USA tech companies are the > most challenging abuse on the planet - as this type of abuse, is the > hardest to combat. - Twitter does not even accept abuse complaints. > Facebook does not care and Google mixes spam with ham all the time to > defeat email blacklists > > Why not study the reasons for the percentage increase in the use of > inspection/tracking/non private/invasive anti abuse technologies in use > by the largest email and dominant players, Google and Microsoft, of > ipv6 and the reason why these huge tech players HAVE to push for ipv6 > email servers relay to ensure their future dominance of email relay? > > Instead of "My colleagues and I are working on evaluating and improving > the accuracy of blacklists" > > As, imnsho, that is absolute USA bullshit. and is not even possible. > > I would go sofar as to state that such research is not intended to > "improve" anything but to cement the monopolies we fight daily and is > on the EVIL side of the fight. > > Andre > > > > On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 10:01:16 -0700 > Barry Greene <barryrgreene at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Not a joke. >> >> Just a researcher exploring ways to quantify and measure. Always >> important to have the academic doing the due diligence on our >> operational assumptions. >> >>> On Jul 17, 2019, at 07:40, ac <ac at main.me> wrote: >>> >>> >>> This is a joke email, right? >>> >>> Is it the 1st of April already? :) >>> >>> Andre >>> >>> On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 13:42:21 +0200 >>> Anushah Hossain <anushah at icsi.berkeley.edu> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I'm a researcher at UC Berkeley and the International Computer >>>> Science Institute. My colleagues and I are working on evaluating >>>> and improving the accuracy of blacklists. As part of this work, >>>> we'd like to hear from you about the blacklists you currently use, >>>> what you perceive as their strengths and weaknesses, and any >>>> thoughts you have on how they might be improved. >>>> >>>> We've prepared an anonymous survey where you can share your views: >>>> >>>> If you have five to ten minutes free today to fill it out, I would >>>> greatly appreciate your help! Thank you, and please don't hesitate >>>> to respond to me with comments or questions. >>>> >>>> (Apologies if you receive this message twice - trying to minimize >>>> cross-posting while still reaching a broad audience) >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Anushah >>>> >>> >>> > > -- Dr. Serge Droz Chair, Forum of Incident Response and Security Teams (FIRST) Phone +41 76 542 44 93 | serge.droz at first.org | https://www.first.org
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