[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)
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Carlos Friaças
cfriacas at fccn.pt
Fri Apr 19 15:53:29 CEST 2019
On Thu, 18 Apr 2019, Fi Shing wrote: > > What absolute crap. Why is that every time something resembling common sense enters this group, there are these people who insist on using slippery slop fallacy? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope > > It wouldn't half surprise me if people like this "randy bush" are motivated by criminal groups. I cannot think of any reason, other than a criminal one, why someone would object to common sense policy that leads to a reduction in > abuse. > > (Usually, there is one other motivation (financial) but not in this proposal). Hi, Please let me tell you that you are absolutely wrong about Randy Bush. I co-authored another policy proposal together with Randy (and also some other people who have already objected to 2019-03) some years ago. Randy's contribution is always appreciated and (at least) i feel very lucky when he shows up at RIPE meetings, and i happen to be there too. I hope this will destroy any doubt you may have about Randy: https://www.internethalloffame.org/inductees/randy-bush Let me also say that i think that energy into improving/deploying routing security (RPKI, MANRS, ...) should in any way be reduced just because of what 2019-03 proposes. Randy's position is obviously not irrelevant for me, as other person who frequently brings as much value to the RIPE community as Randy does, already told me (in private), in even a less positive way. Regards, Carlos > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 New Policy Proposal (BGP Hijacking > is a RIPE Policy Violation) > From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> > Date: Fri, April 19, 2019 1:55 am > To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net > > < rant > > > this is insane. neither ripe nor the ncc should be the net police, > courts, and prison rolled into one kangaroo court. > > it is droll that the erstwhile anti-abuse working group becomes a > self-righteous abuser. so it is with so many abused children. > > put your energy into routing security not converting ripe and the ncc > into an authoritarian state. we have enough of those. > > randy > > >
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