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andre at ox.co.za
Wed May 30 14:58:51 CEST 2018
On Wed, 30 May 2018 13:37:20 +0100 Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net> wrote: > Please stop. This is not helpful. > so, what you are saying is that I should stop sending email? or, whatever my opinions are, has to only be helpful? or if you say something, then it has to be accepted? I am a human person, I have feelings and when my feelings are insulted, I react. I am not a particularly helpful person. But, I do not tell other people, in public, that their opinions are rubbish. In fact, I do not recall personally insulting anyone on this list, over many years. I also do not compare the opinions of other people to evil people in my country. I am tired of people demanding respect but treating other people like crap. I am tired of wolves hiding in sheep clothing. I am tired of being quiet. I am tired of people twisting words, making up fake news. Like you just did Malcolm, Simply saying: "accusations that your political opponents abduct babies" Without being responsible for your words. You should apologise Malcolm, but you will not. There is no reason why I should simply accept your word from on high. So, ban me from this wg and this email list then. Even though I have not abused anyone. ban me for taking offense, feeling hurt and speaking the truth. Please do that. Show me you can? You know you want to. > On 30/05/2018 13:36, ox wrote: > > On Wed, 30 May 2018 13:06:57 +0100 > > Malcolm Hutty <malcolm at linx.net> wrote: > >> > >> But can we please leave out accusations that your political > >> opponents abduct babies? That surely crosses the line. The trope > >> is, at least, > > > > there are no accusations of any kind. > > > > and, to be more clear, nobody said anything about abducting. > > > > Factually: > > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/us/trump-immigrant-children-lost.html > > > > The USA does forcefully remove babies from the arms of their > > mothers. > > > > Furthermore: The US Government does "lose" 000 these children. > > > > This is not accusations. And, mentioning the facts, as they are, > > undisputed, does not cross any line. > > > > And who are 'political opponents' ? > > > > Please do bother actually reading the argument? or ask if you did > > not understand it? > > > > Simply stating that, in your opinion, there are accusations and > > abductions are pathetic in itself as it completely ignores or > > addresses the salient fact that Ronald said my opinion is 'rubbish' > > and that my opinion is equal to what "Fox" blasts out and "Fox" (by > > implication, Republicans, in America states. > > > > It is my choice to find that offensive as by implication my opinion > > equates that which the USA (and Fox) is promoting. > > > > As it disgusts me, it is an insult and it is offensive. > > > > > >> Older Than Feudalism, and very likely Older Than Dirt, and as > >> always raising it serves no purpose other than to demonise one > >> group of people and to smear another by association, thereby > >> shutting down the conversation. It's not an argument, it's a > >> transparent attempt to exclude. Please stop. > >> > > Please stop what? Speaking the truth? > > > > Taking offense at people equating my opinions to rubbish? > > > > Please be more clear in what you are stating Malcolm? What would you > > like to stop? > > > >> More generally, I believe this discussion would be improved if > >> people stopped throwing around terms like "European" and > >> "Republican" as though they are terms of abuse. Our community is, > >> and should be, open to all. > >> > > Who said anything to the contrary? > > > > Andre > > > > > > > >
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