[anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse
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Brian Nisbet
brian.nisbet at heanet.ie
Tue May 29 23:59:57 CEST 2018
Ronald, We understand that you are against the application of GDPR to the ICANN Whois. So noted. However your language below repeatedly goes beyond what I believe is acceptable under the RIPE Community Code of Conduct. You are insulting people both in broad swathes and specific instances. As I said, there is no problem expressing your opinion of any law, proposal or idea, but please do so without any ad hominem attacks nor repeated references to imagined groups. Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet at heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 > -----Original Message----- > From: anti-abuse-wg [mailto:anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net] On Behalf Of > Ronald F. Guilmette > Sent: 29 May 2018 20:17 > To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse > > > In message <5F2D3EAE-BF59-4E61-B17B-BF45F3DF0922 at consulintel.es>, > JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote: > > >Whois, as everything in the life, has good and bad things. > > > >Against: Privacy invaded. In fact, when you register a new domain and > >you associate a visible email to it, in a matter of hours, you get spam. > > This is an entirely specious argument used in an attempt to justify a ridiculous > conclusion. > > It's like saying that if one goes out out of one's home, then there is a finite > non-zero chance that one will be run over by a drunk driver, and that > therefore, everyone should stay inside and never leave their homes. This > "solution" is being offered in place of the obvious one, i.e. working to > identify drunk drivers and then working to get them off the roads (or > equivalently, working to identify spammers and then working to get them off > the Internet, which is what I do). > > To be clear, I really don't care if any set of private citizens decide for > themselves, and of their own free will, that they should never leave their > homes in order to avoid ever being run over. That's their choice to make. > What I -do- mind is regional governmental bodies, such as the unelected > European Council, dictating to me, and to everyone else on the planet, > European or otherwise, that we all -must- deal with the problem of drunk > drivers by staying inside our homes 24/7. > > Just because you Europeans have become infected with some kind of > obscure mental disease that impairs your abilities to think clearly, or to > effectively differentiate reasonable solutions to problems from silly ones, do > you really have to go around *spreading* this disease to the rest of the > world? > > (I won't even ask what makes you all think that you have the divine right to > do so. I doubt that the answer would be any different today than it was in > the year 1095.) > > > Regards, > rfg
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