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[anti-abuse-wg] GDPR - positive effects on email abuse
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Volker Greimann
vgreimann at key-systems.net
Tue May 29 16:48:08 CEST 2018
This is another argument often raised, yet it is missing the point of
the legality of these registers. Yes, there are certain public or
non-public registers like the land register (public) or the car
registration register (non-public), but each of these are mandated by
law. If you buy land, there is a legal requirement to get yourself
registered. This legal basis is sufficient grounds for data processing
under the GDPR under Art 6 I c) ("processing is necessary for compliance
with a legal obligation to which the controller is subject").
But that is exactly the point: No such law exists for IP adresses or
whois, hence the logic of having these registeres cannot be transferred
to these services. Now, some countries have such laws and ccTLD
registries will continue to legally publish whois details for their TLD
registrations. But most do not, and if they do, these laws are
specifically tailored to their own TLD.
Volker
Am 29.05.2018 um 16:42 schrieb Ángel González Berdasco:
> Volker Greimann wrote:
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> that is a common misconception, but sadly untrue.
>>
>>> As things stand at the moment, the interpretations of GDPR and subsequent actions of some large organisations make it likely that fraud and other types of malpractice, largely aimed at individual users, will increase.
>> On the other hand, the amount of spam and abuse directed at new
>> registrant will be greatly reduced. Balance will be the result.
>>> The stated position "that tool was illegal to begin with as it violated the rights to privacy of millions of domain owners” is, at best, misleading. Assuming the “tool” being referred to is WHIOS, registrants of domains needed to provide information as part of their contract with the registrar. A contractual requirement. Perfectly OK pre GDPR, perfectly OK post GDPR.
>> Sadly untrue, since consent to processing of data that is not strictly
>> necessary for the performance of the contract post GDPR must be freely
>> given. If the service is withheld unless consent is provided, that
>> consent is invalid.
>> Even before GDPR, the consent for whois was iffy as best.
> Don't you have real estate registration in your country that is publicly
> accessible? If so, do you think it should now be banned under GDPR (if
> in EU)?
>
> I see your point, but it is not *that* clear.
>
> Best regards
>
>
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