[anti-abuse-wg] Recent List Discussion

Can we tone down the rhetoric and stop accusing each other of criminal 
activity (which in itself may be libel and therefore a criminal act).

If you have evidence of criminal activities, report them to the 
appropriate authorities. Criminals will be convicted. If there is no 
conviction, there probably is no crime but only hyperbole.

This has gone far enough.

Best,

Volker


Am 31.05.2017 um 03:12 schrieb Marilson:
> Brian,
> Please read this very carefully. There is no place on the World for 
> people like you and your criminal partners, ISP owner.
> This is a list to discuss how to protect network abuse.
> Please consider your contributions to the list very carefully. You are 
> not acting in the spirit of the Europe community nor are you providing 
> useful content for good people, for honest people. Neither you nor the 
> other members of the Pro-Abuse Working Group of R.O.T.T.E.N., ex-RIPE, 
> with rare exceptions.
> I do not wish to have to take further action, ahhh I want to, and this 
> email should be taken as a warning that if you continue to act as you 
> have done until today, that action will be taken. You will have to 
> explain why you are scandalized by words like bullshit - Nazi - 
> criminal, but tolerate Nazi and criminal behavior of customer. Oh 
> yeah, you're not police and customer behavior is not your 
> responsibility, right? Nor reporting crimes is your responsibility, 
> right? Your arguments do not hold. In the face of the gravity of the 
> acts, your arguments are a joke.
> Surely that will not result in short term moderation of your behavior, 
> but, regrettably, if necessary I will have to look at further steps 
> such as to show that your anti-abuse is a joke of bad taste.
> Now, prove that you also do not tolerate the contradictory banning me. 
> :)))))
> Marilson
> *From:* Brian Nisbet <mailto:brian.nisbet at heanet.ie>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 29, 2017 10:26 AM
> *To:* Marilson <mailto:marilson.mapa at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Tobias Knecht <mailto:tk at abusix.com>
> *Subject:* Recent List Discussion
> Marilson,
>
> As I said on list and I have said before there is no place on the
> mailing list for ad hominem attacks, personal insults or accusations
> (really of any sort). This is a list to discuss how to deal with network
> abuse. It is not here for you to act in the way you have acted today.
>
> Please consider your contributions to the list very carefully. You are
> not acting in the spirit of the RIPE community nor are you providing
> useful content for the other members of the Anti-Abuse Working Group.
>
> I do not wish to have to take further action, but this email should be
> taken as a warning that if your posts continue to have the content they
> had today, that action will be taken. At the very least that will result
> in short term moderation of your posts, but, regrettably, if necessary
> we will have to look at further steps such as removal from the list.
>
> Brian
> Co-Chair, RIPE Anti-Abuse WG
>

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