[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse: Too big to fail

It seems there is a definition issue here. I am sure Twitter does not 
intentionally spam its users, but many users that receive messages from 
Twitter think of these as spam.

What is probably true:

- Real spammers may be abusing the infrastructure offered by Twitter to 
spam and Twitter is unable/unwilling to take action to stop this

- Twitter account holders have their settings set up that they receive 
too many notifications that they do not really want.

Solving the second is easy: Just change your notification settings.

Volker

PS: It may be helpful to say exactly which messages you consider spam 
instead of opening up with the big guns right away but without 
sufficient detail to verify your claims.


Am 19.06.2017 um 17:08 schrieb ox:
> If I do actually look at the abuse lists that list the spammer, Twitter
> - they are sorbs, etc and have a reputation for ethical behavior..
>
> What is interesting is how you & michele defend the spammer
>
> One has to wonder whether it is because the fact that Twitter is an
> evil spammer hurts you guys personally?
>
> Or if you are products (have twitter etc) accounts and the truth hurts?
>
> If you love the Twitter spammer that much, why do you not try to get the
> spammer to change their evil ways? Instead of trying to make it about a
> quarter of all the rbl's being useless, etc.
>
> or just plain stupid and obviously false claims that Twitter never sends spam.
>
> Andre
>
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 14:53:07 +0000
> Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 19/06/17, 8:20 PM, "anti-abuse-wg on behalf of ox"
>> <anti-abuse-wg-bounces at ripe.net on behalf of andre at ox.co.za> wrote:
>>
>>      And, apart from the fact that 25% of all spam lists does in fact
>> list Twitter as a spammer
>>
>> Sturgeon’s law manifests itself all the time. eg: the number of weird
>> and wonderful blocklists used by maybe two men and their dog, the
>> population of cranks on the Internet…
>>
>> --srs
>>
>

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