[anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything?
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denis
ripedenis at xs4all.nl
Mon Feb 20 16:09:52 CET 2017
Hi Suresh Thanks for that. I can live with a mail server that is only randomly blocked by a few organisations. I was looking for a mail service that I can use that works with the RIPE NCC's mail server. It seems yahoo, gmail and microsoft mail servers have variable success with these mailing lists. Sometimes I post and many list members reject my mails because of DMARC policies. As I don't have a corporate email address I have limited options. cheers denis On 2017-02-20 15:54, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Datev.de isn’t even an ISP it looks like a software firm to me – that > provides software products for law firms, tax planners and such > > My guess is a local block on their mailserver for xs4all.nl for > whatever reason. The only individual from there subscribed to the > list – from searching the archives superficially so I could be wrong – > is Andreas Schulze andreas.schulze at datev.de > > What xs4all is telling you is correct, there’s absolutely nothing they > can do about some individual deciding to block whatever he wants on a > mailserver that he controls. Large ISPs have users they are > answerable to. IT firms on the other hand are shielded from their > actual users (unless the users substantially outrank them) by “blocked > due to corporate policies” – and such blocking can be surprisingly > overbroad and with little or no redress, because the team that > operates it does not consider a postmaster role all that necessary. > > --srs > > From: denis <ripedenis at yahoo.co.uk> > Date: Monday, 20 February 2017 at 6:36 AM > To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com>, denis > <ripedenis at xs4all.nl> > Cc: <anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net> > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] an ISP can't do anything? > > Hi Suresh > I was replying to a message on the DB-WG and got this response: > The message could not be delivered, the mail server at > idvmailin04.datev.com [193.27.49.132] said: > <<< 554 5.7.1 Service unavailable; Sender address > [ripedenis at xs4all.nl] blocked using dbl.webradar.datev.de; gesperrt > vom DATEV WebRadar, http://webradar.datev.de/lookup?domain=xs4all.nl, > servertime=Feb 20 02:16:47, server=idvmailin04.datev.com, > client=194.109.24.26 > cheers > denis > > On 20/02/2017 14:58, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > On 20-Feb-2017, at 2:22 AM, denis <ripedenis at xs4all.nl> wrote: > It seems like XS4ALL is not able to do anything about being > blacklisted. Obviously the message about handling abuse is not getting > through.... > It would help if you posted just what bounce and from where. XS4all > has historically been quite proactive about abuse handling.
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