[anti-abuse-wg] The well-behaved ISP's role in spamfight
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Wed Feb 15 12:22:37 CET 2017
On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:18:49 +0100 peter h <peter at hk.ipsec.se> wrote: > There is not any req that all customers always should be forced to use > ISP relays, the default behaviour might be to use ISP relays, and > to have DHCP given address. But for an extra service one could > obtain a fixed address, and as extra service, use port 25. The main > point is to have those "unaware" users, whos computers might be > stolen, prevented. They won't notice, and they don't get harmed. > there used to be free (and reasonably well maintained) open lists of dynamic IPv4 ranges. Since everyone started selling (or renting) data, getting a free (and maintained) list of dynamic ranges, is difficult, if not impossible - anyone know of any such free list? > Spam from a fixed ip or range is much easier to detact and correct > then spam from any box that happens to get an DHCP lease. > Flexibility and service is the keyword here. > in a perfect world only email servers would be sending email. In our world someone's Android phone could also be an email server & client and some "ISP" loves using dynamic ranges as excuse for poorly maintained or non responsive abuse systems (or policy enforcement) > Also, to have a AUP that gives the ISP right to disconnect or block > offenders is importent, and also that the customer has right to > service. Any aggreement is twofold, both rights and obligations, like > in society in general. > > I'm glad that spam is recignised as the problem it is and hope a > renewed activity to claim back the bandwitdh and storage space the > spammer has taken from us. > > Yours > >
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