[anti-abuse-wg] AS41609, AS203974, and Alexandru ("Andrei") Stanciu / Suceava, Romania

On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 15:46:29 +0530
Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> I do get that a problem with incompetence and/or malice depending on
> which way hanlons razor cuts in allowing these ranges to be hijacked
> is being shoved onto receiving isps for them to mitigate it, yes.
> 
cool, but other than educating what do you do about ignorance? and when
we, as a wg, cannot even agree on what defines abuse, how do you manage
malice? Our entire system, on multiple levels (network peer and
service/mail interoperability,. etc) depends on co-operation, freedom 
and openness. Sure, I have only been on the network now for 30 years,
so many of you are my senior, but  theoretically some issues are not
solvable without deducting from either freedom or from one of the
others. (imho anyway - please feel free to add/edit)

Andre