[anti-abuse-wg] Bringing Law Enforcement Into the RIPE Community

Hi,

Am 01.08.2017 um 18:44 schrieb Sascha Luck [ml] <aawg at c4inet.net <mailto:aawg at c4inet.net>>:
> On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 05:29:04PM +0200, Malte von dem Hagen wrote:
>> nobody is a mandatory member of RIPE.
> 
> I did contemplate putting text in my email to forestall this
> idiotic argument because I knew someone would not be above
> bringing it.

We can of course start calling each other’s statements idiotic, if you want. 
Not my preferred way of spending time, though.

> Everyone in the RIPE NCC service region who needs their own IP
> space is, mandatorily, a RIPE NCC member. 

Nobody mandatorily needs IP space. Point is, if you „need“ own IP space, that is always out of free will, curiosity, business concept or something similar, but never by force. You just weaken yourself by enclosing a generally valid statement in questionable context.

However, to get back to the topic, I feel it is by far not enough to just blame RIPE NCC for signing a MoU without pointing out what exactly is questionable from your POV in terms of cotent. Did you even read it?

To me, the content is far from being an „close ally“, and Europol with its mission and entitlements is also far from national intelligence agencies.

Cheers,

Malte
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