[anti-abuse-wg] Brian Krebs posts stophaus chat logs of Spamhaus ddos coordination
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Suresh Ramasubramanian
ops.lists at gmail.com
Sat Aug 27 14:34:53 CEST 2016
The one takeaway i get from this seems to be that the bad guys are perfectly aware of just where they can find loose or poorly implemented security and abuse policies - who is incompetent, who is malicious, who to abuse, who not to abuse And action if any gets taken only after significant pressure is applied. --srs > On 27-Aug-2016, at 2:39 PM, ox <andre at ox.co.za> wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 14:05:38 +0530 > Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Curious - what factors would these be that you identified? >> > But, at least two or more of the five factors are so very clear? > > imho the most obvious is: > Effectively managing abuse depends on the interaction and relationship > between two main and different techs of the Internet > > Those engineers that route and those that are system engineers > > The second most obvious thing, in my opinion, may be that if you ask > ten of either of these what constitutes Internet abuse, you will > receive at least two and as much as five (or more), different answers. > > and then there are so many other factors, what do you think the factors > are? > > > Andre > >> >>> On 27-Aug-2016, at 2:00 PM, ox <andre at ox.co.za> wrote: >>> >>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 13:41:28 +0530 >>> Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Worth a read >>>> http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/08/inside-the-attack-that-almost-broke-the-internet/ >>>> >>> Yes, the actual logs that Brian Krebs publishes, of the >>> conversations, underlines and serves as clear proof of those >>> factors which serves to obtuse anti abuse efforts. >>> >>> Until this is resolved, Internet abuse will continue to be >>> difficult to manage. This makes it difficult for anyone one the >>> Internet, including the Cyber Criminals themselves, to deal with >>> Internet abuse effectively anyway. >>> >>> 2c >>> >>> Andre >>> >>> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20160827/7c687fb7/attachment.html>
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