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Suresh Ramasubramanian
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Wed Aug 17 11:19:40 CEST 2016
Yes that is what I said about a legal obligation versus good citizenship --srs > On 17-Aug-2016, at 2:46 PM, ox <andre at ox.co.za> wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 14:38:09 +0530 > Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists at gmail.com> wrote: >> I think the term that's being collectively groped for is whether >> ripe ncc has a reporting obligation in case it discovers criminal >> activity >> >> The number of cases where such reporting is mandatory in law and not >> simply a matter of good citizenship is rather limited - threat to >> life, kidnap, etc. >> > No, not so much... > > It is not a "point of view" whether RIPE has the obligation to file > criminal complaints when there is fraud committed against RIPE > > Under Dutch Law, We have already heard how RIPE is registered... > > In fact, if it was a public company, it would not be much different either.. > > Speaking generally, in most places in the world where you are working > or operating the assets of someone other than yourself their are many > additional things that become relevant to your own operation... > > I think that we may want to hear from RIPE legal in that regard > > But, what I am also saying is that socially, civil society and simple > ethics and good custodial management, basic decency and so very very > many other things demand that RIPE files criminal complaints when there > is crime. > > For example: Should an official of RIPE steal money at RIPE there is an > obligation to file a criminal complaint. > > Same principles apply all throughout > > Andre > > > > >> --srs >> >> On 17-Aug-2016, at 2:26 PM, Rob Evans <rhe at nosc.ja.net> wrote: >> >>>> When anyone commits fraud to obtain a resource from RIPE, RIPE has >>>> the responsibility to file criminal charges against that criminal. >>>> >>>> I am not saying that I think RIPE should file criminal charges, I >>>> am saying that not doing so is in itself a questionable action. >>> >>> Well, to be pedantic, *criminal* charges are filed by the police >>> or other law-enforcment body, not by companies. :) >>> >>> Rob >>> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20160817/6a1d7345/attachment.html>
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