[anti-abuse-wg] Definition of Abuse

Hi Sascha, 

A quick FYI, the chair is currently on vacation if I'm correctly informed. 
A direct question to him, might take a bit longer than usually expected. 

Erik Bais  

> Op 16 aug. 2016 om 23:16 heeft Sascha Luck [ml] <aawg at c4inet.net> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I have a question for the Chair:
> 
> Is it the purpose of this WG to be a forum for repeated, tedious,
> longwinded and and libellous accusations that have heretofore not been substatiated by any evidence whatsoever?
> 
> rgds,
> Sascha Luck
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 01:30:41PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>> 
>> See WHOIS record below.
>> 
>> My contentions, briefly, are threefold:
>> 
>> (1)  That the WHOIS record shown below contains nothing other that
>>      cleverly constructed bovine excrement which was, with deliberate
>>      intent and malice aforethought, constructed for the clear purpose of
>>      deception as to the the real identity and location of the actual
>>      registrant of this block.
>> 
>> (2)  That the act of entering this deliberately deceptive information
>>      into the RIPE NCC WHOIS data base constitutes a flagrant and
>>      premeditated act of "abuse" against RIPE NCC, the RIPE Community,
>>      and indeed against all Internet users on this planet.
>> 
>> (3)  That the current practice of allowing, without question, unverifed
>>      and unverifiable "officers" of unverifed and unverifiable
>>      "companies" (which are themselves allegedly incorporated in
>>      dodgy and secretive "offshore" jurisdictions) to have and to
>>      hold RIPE number resources has proven time and time again to
>>      facilitate fraud, cybercrime, and spamming.  This practice
>>      must end.
>> 
>> ======================================================================
>> % This is the RIPE Database query service.
>> % The objects are in RPSL format.
>> %
>> % The RIPE Database is subject to Terms and Conditions.
>> % See http://www.ripe.net/db/support/db-terms-conditions.pdf
>> 
>> % Information related to '82.221.130.64 - 82.221.130.127'
>> 
>> % Abuse contact for '82.221.130.64 - 82.221.130.127' is 'abuse at orangewebsite.com'
>> 
>> inetnum:        82.221.130.64 - 82.221.130.127
>> netname:        ORANGEWEB
>> descr:          OrangeWebsite.com - Network
>> org:            ORG-IL351-RIPE
>> country:        IS
>> admin-c:        OTD3-RIPE
>> tech-c:         OTD3-RIPE
>> status:         ASSIGNED PA
>> mnt-by:         MNT-ADVANIA
>> created:        2016-01-27T15:08:11Z
>> last-modified:  2016-01-27T15:08:11Z
>> source:         RIPE
>> 
>> organisation:   ORG-IL351-RIPE
>> org-name:       Icenetworks Ltd.
>> org-type:       OTHER
>> address:        60 Market Square
>> address:        Belize City, Belize
>> e-mail:         sales at orangewebsite.com
>> abuse-c:        OTD3-RIPE
>> mnt-ref:        MNT-ADVANIA
>> mnt-by:         MNT-ADVANIA
>> created:        2014-11-05T10:30:10Z
>> last-modified:  2014-11-05T10:46:28Z
>> source:         RIPE
>> 
>> role:           OrangeWebsite.com Technical Department
>> address:        OrangeWebsite.com
>> address:        Klapparstigur 7
>> address:        101 Reykjavik
>> address:        Iceland
>> abuse-mailbox:  abuse at orangewebsite.com
>> e-mail:         support at orangewebsite.com
>> admin-c:        AK12182-RIPE
>> tech-c:         AK12182-RIPE
>> mnt-by:         MNT-ADVANIA
>> nic-hdl:        OTD3-RIPE
>> created:        2013-12-16T09:41:11Z
>> last-modified:  2013-12-16T09:41:11Z
>> source:         RIPE
>> 
>> % Information related to '82.221.128.0/19AS50613'
>> 
>> route:          82.221.128.0/19
>> descr:          Advania / Thor Data Center
>> origin:         AS50613
>> mnt-by:         THOR-MNT
>> mnt-lower:      THOR-MNT
>> created:        2013-07-30T12:15:23Z
>> last-modified:  2013-07-30T12:15:23Z
>> source:         RIPE
>> 
>> % This query was served by the RIPE Database Query Service version 1.87.4 (BLAARKOP)
>> 
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