[anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Contact Finder is not checking admin-c from org object?
Christian Teuschel christian.teuschel at ripe.net
Thu Feb 13 14:57:11 CET 2014
Hi Piotr, The Abuse-Contact-Finder in RIPEstat considers aut-num objects as well. The article you referenced describes an out-dated version of the Abuse-Contact-Finder which is not part of RIPEstat. That RIPEstat considers aut-num objects could have been seen as a benefit especially in the pre abuse-c era. But we understood that this fishing for abuse contacts in the RIPE DB does not always deliver high-quality results. This was, by the way, the reason we came up with the star rating. I hope that as soon as we have the abuse-c rolled out completely this will not matter anymore. Kind regards, Christian On 13/02/14 13:37, Piotr Strzyzewski wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 01:46:20PM +0400, Levon Avagyan wrote: > > Dear Levon > >> I need some help with proper setup of RIPE DB. >> I am currently updating our records and noticed that if i am adding ROLE abuse-c: "UCAB101-RIPE" with abuse-mailbox: "abuse at ucom.am" attribute to our org :"ORG-UL31-RIPE" object, it is not showing up in "Abuse Contact Finder" tool in Ripe Stat. >> It shows me message: "No contact information found for 44395" >> While if i am adding abuse-mailbox: attribute to org: object directly, it finds abuse contact just fine, however gives us 4/5 stars. >> >> Is it a known bug or am i doing something wrong? >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> P.S. >> Query: "whois as44395" returns abuse contact just fine. > > Short answer: Don't use it. ;) > > I assume that the tool you are using is this one: > https://stat.ripe.net/special/abuse > > The correct one is this one: > http://apps.db.ripe.net/search/abuse-finder.html > > However, the first one (from Ripe Stat) is still widely used due the > fact that abuse-c is not fully deployed yet. Among others, the notable > Abusix.org claims to use it. > > If I understand > https://labs.ripe.net/Members/Paul_P_/content-abuse-finder correctly, > this tool doesn't look at aut-num at all. Please corect me if I'm wrong. > > Moreover, this tool is full of false positives, no matter of how many > stars it will show at the end. For example - it was just two weeks ago > when I have deliberately created the situation that for not mine and not > maintained by me inetnum I have forced this tool to claim with 4/5 stars > that abuse at example.net is the contact information. Right now this is > impossible, since I have notified about this the RIPE NCC and this tool > is filtering the RFC-2606 dummy addresses out. Unfortunately, this was > just one of examples. > > Best regards, > Piotr > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: christian_teuschel.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 355 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20140213/9324c59e/attachment.vcf>