[anti-abuse-wg] New Abuse Regulations

Den 6/28/13 10:50 AM, skrev Frank Gadegast:
> Sascha Luck wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 09:47:35AM +0200, Frank Gadegast wrote:
>>> What about a RIR regulation to ensure that address space is only
>>> used for purposes not harming anybody ?
>>> That resource holders are responsible for the abuse coming
>>> out of their networks ?
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>> Srsly? Abandon the common-carrier principle for the sake of a minor
>> annoyance like *spam*? Forcing ISPs to censor and surveil all traffic
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> Sure, its a matter we should discuss, how far we like
> to push things. 

I find it disturbing that anyone would even consider regulating IP 
allocations based on abuse just because they don't have a good enough 
spamfilter themselves. I would rather see a regulation that would deny 
address space allocation to LIRs not having a good spamfilter.


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> For a start I would like to force resource holders to actually
> read the mail arriving under their abuse address.
> This will not force anybody to control all the traffic.


Do you believe this is practically possible for any huge email provider 
(or other services) ?


> F.e. by returning ticket numbers or the like.
> Or sending automatic CCs to the RIPE NCC ..
> This could be controlled, weighted and analyzed by the NCC
> and could give evidence about how the ISP is working
> with abuse reports.


Or even better; RIPE NCC could just get a login to PRISM and read all 
your mail there.


 > Others have probably other ideas, lets hear and discuss them.


Accepting your abuse mail is not a right, but a service. This may be 
unfortunate, but it should be up to each LIR to decide if and through 
what media they accept complaints. Creating a standard and encourage all 
LIRs to use it would however be great.



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