[anti-abuse-wg] centralized abuse whois
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Leo Vegoda
leo.vegoda at icann.org
Thu Jun 20 15:33:59 CEST 2013
Hi Frank, Frank Gadegast wrote: [...] > > We could implement an active referral service if there was strong > > demand > > for it. > > The problem is how to estimate a demand for people, that are no "pros" > and have no idea, that they would probably like this central service. I wonder whether asking end users to report abuse is the right way to go. Would it not be more effective for the user to inform their service provider that a message or event is abuse and rely on the service provider to do the right thing. After all, most people ask a mechanic to service their car rather than learn how to do that. [...] > > However, I wonder whether taping lots of whois servers together > > with web interfaces and scripting is the right way to go. As I > > understand > > it, the protocol being developed by the IETF's WEIRDS WG "SHOULD be > > able > > to deliver a reply that is effectively a referral or redirect to > > another > > server" as well as supporting internationalised addresses and so > > forth. > > URL ? The requirements are here: http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-kucherawy-weirds-requirements-04.txt and the charter is here: http://tools.ietf.org/wg/weirds/charters [...] > And involving groups and standards and all the like would end up > in an interface so complicated, that it isnt usefull for normal > people anymore, it will be full of options, explanations, dos > and donts, funny APIs based on pretty seldom standards and the like ... I believe that one of the requirements is that the protocols is simple and lightweight. > The more easy way would probably be: > - IANA tells the RIRs to implement a whois like the "whois -b" from RIPE > only reachable from IANAs servers (lets say until August ;o) > - IANA creates the new whois under abuse.iana.org, and referres the > queries and standarizes the output In this bottom-up world the policies and requirements are given to ICANN as the IANA functions operator. ICANN doesn't command the RIRs to perform specific tasks. If you want to place a requirement on ICANN and the RIRs along the lines above, you could go down the Global Policy route and ask the ASO AC to start a global policy process. Details here: http://archive.icann.org/en/aso/aso-mou-attachmentA-29oct04.htm Regards, Leo Vegoda -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 5475 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/attachments/20130620/385e3a0c/attachment.p7s>
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