[anti-abuse-wg] Notice: Fradulent RIPE ASNs

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com
> wrote:


> Usually however, there is a finite and small number of individuals
> behind this sort of thing, so that requiring contact, at some mutually
> convenient time, via telephone can most likely flush out the fraud
> most efficiently.  If it is always the exact same voice on the other
> end of the line... even when one is speaking to a number of allegedly
> separate and independent companies, then, to paraphrase William
> Shakespeare, it should be altogether apparent that something is
> rotten in Romania.
>

I have done the complete paperwork and RIPE interfacing for several of our
customers who we are sponsoring PI space and AS numbers for. Matter of
fact, this is the default mode of operation for us. This is _precisely_
what tech-c is for and quite common. The same applies to any customer
wanting to become a LIR themselves and buying consultation from us.

Assuming a phone-in system was introduced and ignoring the obvious issues
with recognizing voices that any hostmaster may or may not have heard at
some time before, I would introduce myself as tech-c, tell the hostmaster
that I would hand over to admin-c who is not very deep into understanding
the matter at hand, and they would basically confirm everything I said.

Exactly the same process and outward appearance for valid and fraudulent
requests.


Even though I may disagree with your proposed solution, talking about
specific concerns and/or suggestions as per above is vastly preferable
over what amounts to grandstanding and refusing to fill out a simple form,
and quite vocally so.

This is especially puzzling since you already did the detective work and
provided apparently useful information. It's a pity to get side-tracked,
really.


I suggest focusing on actual WG discourse on this list.


Thank you for said detective work,
Richard
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