[anti-abuse-wg] National PSDN "UZPAK"
Florian Weimer fw at deneb.enyo.de
Thu Mar 29 21:52:42 CEST 2012
* Reza Farzan: > As I had stated in my earlier message, I had forwarded my Spam report to the > following address [admin at uzpak.uz], but it came back with this error > message: In your earlier message, you mentioned <mazgarov at uznet.net> and <ripeadmin at uzpak.uz> only, and not <admin at uzpak.uz>. But it turns out this address is not valid, either: | 220 Welcome to UzNET Cyber Mail ESMTP | EHLO ka.mail.enyo.de | 250-Welcome to UzNET Cyber Mail | 250-SIZE 0 | 250-PIPELINING | 250 8BITMIME | MAIL FROM:<fw at deneb.enyo.de> | 250 ok | RCPT TO:<admin at uzpak.uz> | 553 sorry, this recipient is not in my validrcptto list (#5.7.1) | QUIT | 221 Welcome to UzNET Cyber Mail So we've finally something which is demonstrably not in order: the email attribute of ORG-UNCN1-RIPE does not refer to a valid mailbox (to the degree something like that can be tested). > So, having a street address, a phone number, and even an invalid email > address, does not change anything; it creates frustration and despair. The sad thing is that even if there was a working email address (<admin at intel.uz>, probably), it wouldn't change anything. I've been through this---in the end, WHOIS accuracy has very little impact on things. The data is bad because no one has a serios need for it. Neither the anti-abuse folks, nor the copyright holders, and certainly not law enforcement. If the data was actually used for any significant purpose, those who submit and publish incorrect WHOIS information would face some accountability. Right now, they get away with publishing anything from outright lies to data which may have been current ten years ago. There is no use case, so quality does not matter. This is like any documentation: if it is not continuously used, it decays fast, and it is extremely difficult to motivate people to maintain it because they abhor the sheer pointlessness of it.