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[anti-abuse-wg] National PSDN "UZPAK"
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Florian Weimer
fw at deneb.enyo.de
Wed Mar 28 20:35:01 CEST 2012
* Suresh Ramasubramanian:
> There is clearly a fiduciary duty as the custodians of a scarce, depleting,
> common good.
>
> So, why would an analogy about due diligence not score points?
Because we do not value accountability in our financial institutions.
Back to the original topic. I agree that we face various issues with
service provider accountability, but one of the major problems with
this and similar discussions is that those who demand some form of
action make claims which are quite obviously not factually correct.
The allocated resource covering 213.230.122.0 is
the inetnum object 213.230.64.0 - 213.230.127.255,
allocated to this LIR:
organisation: ORG-UNCN1-RIPE
org-name: Uzpak Net (Country Net of Independence Republic of Uzbekistan)
org-type: LIR
address: National Data Network Company
8th floor, 8, Druzhba Narodov str.,
700043, Tashkent,
Uzbekistan
phone: +998 71 114 6314
phone: +998 71 144 4804
fax-no: +998 71 114 6322
e-mail: admin at uzpak.uz
admin-c: BM2509-RIPE
admin-c: MBA-RIPE
mnt-ref: AS8193-MNT
mnt-ref: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
changed: [...] 20120308
source: RIPE
There you have a street address, a phone number, and even an email
address. Does this change anything about accountability? Not sure.
For PA resources, such information is relatively easy to find.
However, RIPE NCC is not able to provide this as a service, and
restricts access to the database in a way that makes it impossible to
offer such a service to the general public. But these obstacles are
created by RIPE NCC and the RIPE community, and not the resource
holders.
Again, let me stress that this case is far from unique. We often see
claims that some network is "bad". I'm slightly out of touch with
regards to current network-wide events, but I still feel that I should
be able to recognize proof of badness as such. But what happens far
too often is that folks who I know are knowledgeable about these
things cannot express their rationale in terms I can understand or
accept as proof. This is a problem.
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