[anti-abuse-wg] Manual vs automated reports
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Michele Neylon :: Blacknight
michele at blacknight.ie
Thu Jul 26 16:33:58 CEST 2012
This is the RIPE anti-abuse WG - I was referring to our _network_ NOT a domain, either ours or anyone else's Regards Michele Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity On 26 Jul 2012, at 15:27, "peter h" <peter at hk.ipsec.se> wrote: > On Wednesday 25 July 2012 17.39, "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" wrote: >> Arnold >> Do a Whois lookup on any IP in As39122 >> You should see an abuse contact.... >> >> Yet we still get reports sent to accounts@ sales@ etc., > > Not that strange : >> whois blacknight.tel > Domain Name: BLACKNIGHT.TEL > Domain ID: D591748-TEL > Sponsoring Registrar: BLACKNIGHT INTERNET SOLUTIONS LTD > Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 1448 > Registrar URL (registration services): www.blacknight.com > Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited > Registrant ID: TUDHRH3SZ9DINEQF > Registrant Name: Michele Neylon > Registrant Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd > Registrant Address1: Barrowside Business Park > Registrant Address2: Unit 12a > Registrant Address3: Sleaty Road > Registrant City: Carlow > Registrant State/Province: Co Carlow > Registrant Postal Code: 000000 > Registrant Country: Ireland > Registrant Country Code: IE > Registrant Phone Number: +353.599183072 > Registrant Email: management at blacknight.ie > Administrative Contact ID: TURPH7M0XB4O2DZO > Administrative Contact Name: Michele Neylon > Administrative Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd > Administrative Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park > Administrative Contact Address2: Unit 12a > Administrative Contact Address3: Sleaty Road > Administrative Contact City: Carlow > Administrative Contact State/Province: Co Carlow > Administrative Contact Postal Code: 000000 > Administrative Contact Country: Ireland > Administrative Contact Country Code: IE > Administrative Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 > Administrative Contact Email: management at blacknight.ie > Billing Contact ID: TURO0PYDHUERE11M > Billing Contact Name: Michele Neylon > Billing Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd > Billing Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park > Billing Contact Address2: Unit 12a > Billing Contact Address3: Sleaty Road > Billing Contact City: Carlow > Billing Contact State/Province: Co Carlow > Billing Contact Postal Code: 000000 > Billing Contact Country: Ireland > Billing Contact Country Code: IE > Billing Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 > Billing Contact Email: management at blacknight.ie > Technical Contact ID: TUJJC18TGSETV3QQ > Technical Contact Name: Michele Neylon > Technical Contact Organization: Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd > Technical Contact Address1: Barrowside Business Park > Technical Contact Address2: Unit 12a > Technical Contact Address3: Sleaty Road > Technical Contact City: Carlow > Technical Contact State/Province: Co Carlow > Technical Contact Postal Code: 000000 > Technical Contact Country: Ireland > Technical Contact Country Code: IE > Technical Contact Phone Number: +353.599183072 > Technical Contact Email: management at blacknight.ie > Name Server: A0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL > Name Server: D0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL > Name Server: N0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL > Name Server: S0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL > Name Server: T0.CTH.DNS.NIC.TEL > Created by Registrar: INJECTCSR > Last Updated by Registrar: BLACKNIGHT INTERNET SOLUTIONS LTD > Last Transferred Date: Wed Mar 02 23:46:19 GMT 2011 > Domain Registration Date: Mon Mar 23 23:59:59 GMT 2009 > Domain Expiration Date: Sat Mar 22 23:59:59 GMT 2014 > Domain Last Updated Date: Wed Feb 15 15:43:42 GMT 2012 > Registrar Fields > ---------------- > TrademarkRegistrationDate: 2006/10/26 > >>>>> Whois database was last updated on: Thu Jul 26 14:18:37 GMT 2012 <<<< > > > > There is no "abuse" address for someone searching for "blacknight.tel" > > >> >> Regards >> >> Michele >> >> Mr. Michele Neylon >> Blacknight >> http://Blacknight.tel >> >> Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity >> >> On 25 Jul 2012, at 16:25, "Arnold" <wiegert at telus.net> wrote: >> >>> On 25/07/2012 6:52 AM, Frank Gadegast wrote: >>>> "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>>> If they send reports to $random addresses they don't really deserve a response >>>> >>>> Thats a true word for prefessionals, but not for not-so-skilled >>>> reporter, that are happy to find out, that there is something like RIPE >>>> and a whois showing them who is responsible for a resource, if they >>>> get abused. >>> I have to agree with this. >>> As a purely 'amateur' reporter, The WhoIs record is all I can rely on >>> as an _officially_ published record to report my complaint. >>> There are other ways, but none are as easy to use and as official. >>> >>> If the people responsible for reducing SPAM won't do anything to make >>> it easier by at least enforcing a proper abuse address in the expected >>> and designated place, then it makes the job of reporting and reducing >>> SPAM that much harder. >>> >>> No matter what you will do, publishing any address opens the door to >>> receiving SPAM, but ... why complain about it; use the information >>> provided by this SPAM in the same way you expect any other user >>> to use it - except you won't need me to report it to you :-) >>> >>> Arnold >>> >>> -- >>> Fight Spam - report it with wxSR >>> http://www.columbinehoney.net/wxSR.shtml >>> >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Peter Håkanson > > There's never money to do it right, but always money to do it > again ... and again ... and again ... and again. > ( Det är billigare att göra rätt. Det är dyrt att laga fel. ) >
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