[anti-abuse-wg] Hold time for abused address space - DNSChanger IP's reallocated
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Fri Aug 17 06:59:09 CEST 2012
>Yet that definition is good enough to be used by the community at large, What I am saying is that definition is not really used in practice. A recent e-mail was sent to this list that contained a different charter set which i think most people would define as "spam", Unwanted e-mail, etc. However, I have no knowledge that it was sent in "bulk" and because it had an alternate charter set I don't even know if it was a solicitation. The message does not fit the definition yet I would define it as "spam". once you look at filtering algorithms you can see how tricky it is and no spam filters works 100% correctly and the parameters change all the time based on conditions. If you start accusing people of something without having a clear definition of what they did then you are running into trouble. Think of credit reporting agencies and all the associated problems if such a database is not run correctly. they don't say "this is a list of deadbeats" they say something like "This person is delinquent on their electric bill by 90 days." If the person pays the electric bill then they are removed from the list. If you just say "the person is a deadbeat" then there is no clear definition of what the person did to get on the list and the person does not know what to do to get off the list. This is how most blacklists are run now. Comcast is a good example. once when they incorrectly blocked ports on my connection. When I asked them why they told me they were not to tell me the reason ... but they added if I did it gain I would be permanently blocked! These are the kind of crazy statements you get from some blacklist operators who think their security issues trump every other issue in the world.