[anti-abuse-wg] Proposal for technical details for abuse contact information in the RIPE Database
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Frank Gadegast
ripe-anti-spam-wg at powerweb.de
Thu Dec 1 16:25:56 CET 2011
Adrian wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2011 at 03:24:05PM +0100, Frank Gadegast wrote: > > hi, Hi, >> You forgot about bigger ISPs that likes to report abuse >> automatically in standarized formats (and what most abuse departments >> really LIKE to receive). > > True, but this is an orthogonal problem. > >> An unrestricted abuse contact really helps here a lot. > > Like, the abuse mailbox defined in RFC 2142? Dont forget that the abuse-mailbox is mandatory, the new abuce-c isnt (and its also hierachically). When automatic parsing is needed, your need to query several objects including IRT, remarks, abuse-mailbox (what is usally not present for networks that ARE spamming a lot) and finally personal objects to find at least one email address you could send an abuse report too. And personal objects ARE restricted, what compicates things a lot. >> But to be honest: no restriction helps that your email >> address ends up in a spammers list, they have more > > Adding arbitrary restrictions doesn't prevent that either. > >> power you can dream of (I even heared that they pay >> people to enter captcha codes). > > Yes. Ok, so lets restrict access to personal objects even more and lets have a non mandatory and public abuse-c without any restriction. And I still like the idea of an "preferred contact method" field, so we can decide what format to use automatically. > Cheers, Adrian Kind regards, Frank -- PHADE Software - PowerWeb http://www.powerweb.de Inh. Dipl.-Inform. Frank Gadegast mailto:frank at powerweb.de Schinkelstrasse 17 fon: +49 33200 52920 14558 Nuthetal OT Rehbruecke, Germany fax: +49 33200 52921 ====================================================================== Public PGP Key available for frank at powerweb.de
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