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peter håkanson
peter at hk.ipsec.se
Wed Oct 21 12:38:27 CEST 2009
Begin forwarded message: > From: peter håkanson <peter at hk.ipsec.se> > Date: October 21, 2009 10:22:13 AM GMT+02:00 > To: Chimel Chimel <chimel31 at live.fr> > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Antispam measures > > > On Oct 20, 2009, at 11:10 PM, Chimel Chimel wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I am not sure this mailing list is still active, the latest >> archived mail dates back from over a year ago. > > yes, the list is sprodically active, however the working group has > given up > with spam and calls itself 'anti-abuse' these days. > >> I have 3 questions for this mailing list: >> >> 1) Does RIPE or other registrars impose antispam fighting measures >> or a code of conduct to the ISPs or telcos it allocates IP ranges to? >> For instance, do these registrar customers specifically sign an >> agreement never to post spam themselves. Do they also sign an >> agreement to terminate IP sub-allocation or contract with their own >> customers who are using their IP addresses to post spam? >> >> 2) If there is such measures, how does RIPE enforce them? >> >> 3) What does RIPE intends to do about Ukrtelecom, who is alone >> responsible for hundreds of thousands of daily spam posts in >> discussion forums and BBSs? >> According to the people in stopforumspam.com, every single post >> emanating from ukrtelecom is spam, there is not a single genuine >> user from that telco. >> How can RIPE allocate hundreds of separate IP ranges to this single >> telco, especially if it is only a support for spam, not a telco at >> all. >> When querying the RIPE database for ukrtelecom, it returns 300 IP >> ranges, but that's only because the web site is limited to 300 >> answers. >> I'd like to see the whole list in order to ban it all from my >> forum, even if it means banning genuine users from Ukraine. >> And of course, when I say ukrtelecom is a spammer site, I really >> means it is a mafia site that makes millions of dollars every month >> in illegal activities, selling dangerous fake medicines such as >> viagra or tamiflu. >> In these times of IP addresses shortening, it would make a lot more >> IPs available if the registrars would cancel IP allocation from the >> customers who break the antispam rules. > > Amen ! > > In the meantime, block the offending ranges. This will make the ip's > isolated. A number > of blocklists is available that keeps current records of offending > ranges. > >> >> Thanks, >> Chimel. >> >> By the way, a BBS seems to be a more adequate way than a mailing >> list to handle this kind of discussion. Just my 2 cents. >> >> Gratuit : Hotmail plus rapide avec Internet Explorer 8 ! Cliquez >> ici ! > > > ====================================================== > Peter Håkanson Phone +46707328101 Fax +4631223190 > IPSec sverige Email peter at ipsec.se > "Safe by design" Address Bror Nilssons gata 16 > Lundbystrand > S-417 55 Gothenburg Sweden > > > ====================================================== Peter Håkanson Phone +46707328101 Fax +4631223190 IPSec sverige Email peter at ipsec.se "Safe by design" Address Bror Nilssons gata 16 Lundbystrand S-417 55 Gothenburg Sweden
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