[address-policy-wg] 2023-01 Review Phase (Reducing IXP IPv4 assignment default size to a /26)
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Nick Hilliard
nick at foobar.org
Wed Jul 12 17:30:58 CEST 2023
Hi Angela, thanks for your reply - this addresses all the remaining concerns I had about the proposal. Nick Angela Dall'Ara wrote on 05/07/2023 15:52: > Dear Nick, > > The requirement in the current policy (ripe-733) [1] that /“After one > year the utilisation of the new assignment must be at least 50%, > unless special circumstances are defined"/ is implemented the way > Marco previously explained: the 50% utilisation refers to an estimated > projection, which must be supported by the documentation provided by > the IXP when requesting an assignment larger than the minimum size. > > This requirement was first introduced in the ripe-604 [2] policy > document, after the approval of proposal 2013-03 [3], to maintain the > need evaluation for IXP assignments. The RIPE NCC Impact Analysis [4] > on proposal 2013-03 was: /“It is the RIPE NCC’s understanding that > Internet Exchange Point assignments larger than /24 would be based on > documented calculations that allow the utilisation to be estimated one > year after the date of assignment. This utilisation should be at least > 50% of the assignment. “/ > > The requirements for returning the unused space to the IXP pool are > described in paragraph 6.1.5 of the current policy: /“IXPs holding > other PI IPv4 space for their peering LAN (i.e. they are seeking a > larger assignment), and any IPv4 space assigned from this pool that is > no longer in use, must be returned to the pool within 180 days of > disuse or a new assignment.“/ > > I hope this helps. > > Kind regards, > Angela Dall’Ara > Policy Officer > RIPE NCC > > [1] https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-733 > [2] https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-604 > [3] https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2013-03 > [4] > https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2013-03#impact-analysis > On 04/07/2023 20:33, Matthias Wichtlhuber wrote: >> Hi Nick, >> >> Marco or Angela from RIPE should be able to answer this question. I have no insights into this beyond what was communicated by RIPE on this list. >> >> Regards, >> Matthias >> >> -- >> Dr.-Ing. Matthias Wichtlhuber >> Team Lead Research and Development >> ------------------------------ >> DE-CIX Management GmbH >> Lindleystr. 12, 60314 Frankfurt (Germany) >> phone: +49 69 1730902 141 >> mobile: +49 171 3836036 >> fax: +49 69 4056 2716 >> e-mail:matthias.wichtlhuber at de-cix.net >> web:www.de-cix.net >> ------------------------------ >> DE-CIX Management GmbH >> Executive Directors: Ivaylo Ivanov and Sebastian Seifert >> Trade registry: District court (Amtsgericht) Cologne, HRB 51135 >> Registered office: Lichtstr. 43i, 50825 Cologne >> >> ________________________________________ >> Von: Nick Hilliard<nick at foobar.org> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 4. Juli 2023 20:18:55 >> An: Matthias Wichtlhuber >> Cc: RIPE Address Policy Working Group >> Betreff: Re: AW: [address-policy-wg] 2023-01 Review Phase (Reducing IXP IPv4 assignment default size to a /26) >> >> Matthias Wichtlhuber wrote on 30/06/2023 10:58: >>>> When receiving requests for more than a /24, the RIPE NCC checks that >>>> the IXP will need more than 50% of the assignment within one year. If >>>> their growth rate is too slow and we expect that it will take more than >>>> a year to exceed that utilisation threshold, we suggest that they >>>> postpone their request. >>> Thus, this issue is not urgent and can be discussed separately. I hope that answers open questions. >> Hi Matthias >> >> Let me ask the question in a different way. The policy says: >> >>> After one year, utilisation of the new assignment must be at least 50%, unless special circumstances are defined. >> If the IXP is using less than 50% after one year, what happens? Will >> the assignment be deassigned? >> >> If the answer is "yes, the assignment will be deassigned", does the RIPE >> NCC apply some form of threshold to determine whether or not to >> deassign? I.e. if the assignment less than exactly 50%, or is there a >> practical slop factor in there? >> >> Nick >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/attachments/20230712/f3de255d/attachment.html>
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