From gert at space.net Sun Apr 10 18:24:37 2022 From: gert at space.net (Gert Doering) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2022 18:24:37 +0200 Subject: [address-policy-wg] Policy building - call for volunteers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 08:59:44AM +0200, James Kennedy wrote: > 2.1. The task force recommends that as resource holders have full > responsibility over the registration of their IPv4 PA assignment(s), > they are free to make assignments or not. If the community accepts > this recommendation, the relevant RIPE Policies should be updated > accordingly, and documenting IPv4 PA assignment(s) will stop being a > policy requirement. Well... this is a somewhat deckchair-related activity... but... the sole purpose of an IPv4 *allocation* is to make *assignments* out of it, and no address can be ever used without it being assigned. LIRs have never been free to "make assignments or not", and I do not think this train of thought has merit. Matter of fact, if you tell someone "use this IP address", you've done an assignment, even if not filling in paperwork ("RIPE-141's") for it - which is something we got rid of. OTOH, the much more interesting question is "whether or not to *register* assignments in the RIPE DB". This is the question that should be asked. - should/must assignments be registered in the RIPE DB - if yes, for what purpose - and with what level of detail - and even if we agree on a "must" there, how could it be enforced, given that the primary enforcement mechanism ("document need for the next allocation") is gone? speaking as a LIR contact, we've stopped putting customer contacts into inet(6)num: objects we maintain (by default), pointing to our role objects instead - the customer (org) *name* is still there, but there is very little benefit in putting phone numbers for someone working at a customer org into the RIPE DB when we're the prime contact for all questions anyway... (so, GDPR, avoid storing data that is not useful). Personally, I'd go with "voluntarily register assignments when there is insight to be gained", but encourage doing so. For end user pools, just register the pool as such ("dialup customers, bavaria"). > 2.2. Following the data consistency principle, the task force also > recommends resource registration requirements be applied consistently > to all Internet number resources, regardless of their type or status. But not all resources are alike. LIRs won't ever come back for more IPv4 space, but they might come back for more IPv6 - and in that case, "document need" is required. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. 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Kind regards, Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG Co-Chairs On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:05 AM Leo Vegoda wrote: > > Dear Address Policy WG, > > According to our WG Chair Selection process, one of the WG chairs has > to step down every two years, and a new WG chair is selected by the > WG. > > Erik Bais is the co-chair whose term ends and he has volunteered to > serve again. Other nominations are also welcome. > > If you would like to put your name forward then you may do so. Please > send your name to James Kennedy (jameskennedy001 at gmail.com) and me. > Please include a short bio and your reason for applying. > > We will collect applications and publish them all on Monday, 25 April. > The Address Policy WG will choose at RIPE 84 in Berlin. > > Kind regards, > > Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG Co-Chairs From leo at vegoda.org Mon Apr 25 22:17:18 2022 From: leo at vegoda.org (Leo Vegoda) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:17:18 -0700 Subject: [address-policy-wg] Address Policy WG Co-Chair Selection Process - 2022 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Dear Address Policy WG, Erik is the only candidate who has indicated an intention to serve in the role as co-chair. If anyone else does want to step forward, please send a motivation to this list before the start of the Address Policy session on Wednesday, 18 May. Kind regards, Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG Co-Chairs On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 3:58 AM Leo Vegoda wrote: > > Dear Address Policy WG, > > This is a reminder that you can put your name forward. We will be > publishing the names of everyone who would be willing to serve on > Monday, 25 April. > > Kind regards, > > Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG Co-Chairs > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:05 AM Leo Vegoda wrote: > > > > Dear Address Policy WG, > > > > According to our WG Chair Selection process, one of the WG chairs has > > to step down every two years, and a new WG chair is selected by the > > WG. > > > > Erik Bais is the co-chair whose term ends and he has volunteered to > > serve again. Other nominations are also welcome. > > > > If you would like to put your name forward then you may do so. Please > > send your name to James Kennedy (jameskennedy001 at gmail.com) and me. > > Please include a short bio and your reason for applying. > > > > We will collect applications and publish them all on Monday, 25 April. > > The Address Policy WG will choose at RIPE 84 in Berlin. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Leo Vegoda for the Address Policy WG Co-Chairs From leo at vegoda.org Mon Apr 25 22:20:14 2022 From: leo at vegoda.org (Leo Vegoda) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:20:14 -0700 Subject: [address-policy-wg] Draft agenda - Address Policy WG at RIPE 84 Message-ID: Hi, We have a draft agenda for the Address Policy WG session on Wednesday, 18 May at RIPE 84. A. Introduction, including appointment of co-chair (10 mins) B. NRO NC Update (10 mins) C. Policy Update followed by Q&A (15 mins) D. Registry Services Update followed by Q&A 15 mins E. IPv6 Policy Goals report from community team followed by discussion (20 mins) F. IPv4 Waiting List (20 mins) - Recap - Find a volunteer to propose the policy G. Database Requirements TF recommendation for removing the requirement for IPv4 assignments (20 mins) - Recap - Discussion H. AOB/Open Mic (10 mins) We look forward to seeing you there in Berlin and online! Kind regards, Leo