[address-policy-wg] Suggestion to replace IPv4 waiting list with auctions

An existing member can register a new entity to apply as a new member. And
it is legally a different entity and no one can stop them from getting a
new membership, and a new /24...

We have been here before...

Regards,

Arash



On Wed, 24 Nov 2021, 21:30 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via address-policy-wg, <
address-policy-wg at ripe.net> wrote:

> I don't think this will work and it not fair.
>
> Those resources should be provided only to new-entrants not new-LIRs from
> exisiting members.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
> @jordipalet
>
>
>
> El 23/11/21 21:53, "address-policy-wg en nombre de Wolfgang Zenker" <
> address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net en nombre de zenker at punkt.de> escribió:
>
>     Greetings,
>
>     in todays WG session Marco Schmidt pointed out that more than half of
>     the /24s allocated from the waiting list pool go to members with
>     multiple LIRs. The number of newly created LIRs eligible for a /24 has
>     increased a lot in recent months, to the point where requests can no
>     longer be filled from the available pool but new LIRs have to wait for
>     blocks coming out of quarantine. This change appears to be due to
> market
>     value for IPv4 blocks being now significantly larger than the cost for
>     creating a new LIR and maintaining it for the two year holding period.
>     The result of this is that newcomers have no easy access to a first
> IPv4
>     block but have to wait in line together with multi-LIR address
> hoarders,
>     defeating the purpose of the waiting list policy.
>
>     I suggest to replace the waiting list with the following system:
>     - /24s becoming available are put to an auction.
>     - every interested member organisation (NOT: LIR) can make a bid of an
>       amount that is not visible to the other bidders.
>     - highest bid wins.
>
>     Expected result would be less requests from address hoarders because
>     they could get address blocks for a similar price on the open market
>     without the additional overhead of creating a new member. Newcomers on
>     the other hand would have to become members to be able to hold
> addresses
>     in the first place, and can use the auction to get access to a properly
>     quarantined address block to start their business.
>
>
>     Regards,
>     Wolfgang Zenker
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