[address-policy-wg] Fwd: IPv4 waiting list policy

Thu Dec 16 20:30:46 CET 2021

Hello Gert,

appreciate your response, i do believe that you started to care when
something is dead now trying to bring to life! On most replies here are
only shooting on newcomers/lirs in which no new lir is getting more than a
/24, and nobody is talking for those lirs that have multiple resources
/16, /17, /20, /21, /22 etc, in which you can clearly see that there is no
usage of it by theirself but only leasing/renting them out to those who
cannot effort to be LIR and even if they effort it, cannot get more than a
/24 allocation. There must be a policy in which it will stop those
behaviours of LIRs, if you don't need that much of resource, then return it
simple as that, and prevent them from leasing out to people like us. I was
working as an IT in one of University in which it has a /16 allocation, and
only in use less than a /24, all remaining resource is leased out with
monthly fee of course. Of course, if you check every single University in
the world has min /15, /16 allocation what for? There are many countries
like ours in which IPv6 is nowhere implemented yet, and there are many
applications in which is not yet ready for IPv6. So therefore, i hope that
this would be considered.

Cheers.

On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 7:46 PM Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 03:03:05PM +0100, Albanian Hosting SH.P.K. via
> address-policy-wg wrote:
> > Very interesting! Good catch. And thank you for the information
> provided, i
> > personally believe that there is no help as because nobody cares at least
> > not the RIPE NCC itself. I do believe that we all are wasting our time
> > here, as long as my small company need a /22 allocation and cannot get
> it,
> > it's worthless. We are renting them from others in order to survive!
>
> If you have read this thread, you might have noticed that people *do* care.
>
> It's just not very clear what can be done, at this point in time, which
> will have a positive effect.
>
> There's lots of things that can be done that have negative effects
> (like, etra bureaucracy, which increases costs, which then leads to
> complaints about, well, bureaucracy) but have very little effect on
> the problem statement: networks getting "more than one /24" for the
> same entity.
>
> The problem statement is not as clear cut as it might seem... if a parent
> company opens a new subsidiary in every european country, which has their
> own network, budget, CEO... shouldn't they be entitled to have a LIR
> account and a /24 for each subsidiary?
>
>
> ... and, of course, it's not like we haven't been telling people since
> 15+ years that IPv4 is going to run out, and they should use IPv6.
>
> Gert Doering
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