From npediaditi at ripe.net Thu Apr 2 16:14:14 2020 From: npediaditi at ripe.net (Nikolas Pediaditis) Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 16:14:14 +0200 Subject: [address-policy-wg] New AS Number Blocks Allocated to the RIPE NCC Message-ID: Dear colleagues, On 1 April 2020, the RIPE NCC received the following AS Number blocks from IANA: 210332-211355 211356-212379 212380-213403 You may want to update your records accordingly. All allocations of AS Numbers made by IANA to RIRs are listed here: https://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/as-numbers.xhtml Kind regards, Nikolas Pediaditis Registration Services & Policy Development Manager RIPE NCC From rfg at tristatelogic.com Thu Apr 16 09:25:16 2020 From: rfg at tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 00:25:16 -0700 Subject: [address-policy-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election Message-ID: <82660.1587021916@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Greetings all, I know that all is not right with the world right now, and that most of you, like me, have much more pressing things on your minds right now, but someone just sent me the following link and I cannot exactly ignore it: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020/confirmed-candidates I would like to call everyone's attention to the last of the three candidates who have, it seems, "qualified" as candidates for open seats of the RIPE NCC Executive Board. As I have already said, I know that things are bad in the world right now, but I must ask this question: Is there really no one other than these three candidates who is willing and/or able to stand for the three open seats on the RIPE NCC Executive board... three open seats that will be voted on at the next general meeting, 13-15 May 2020 ? If not, then it seems that RIPE NCC will soon be following in the new tradition, established first by AFRINIC only last year, of placing well and widely known crooks on it board. I desperately hope it won't come to that, but that is not for me to decide. The decision is in your hands dear friends. Regards, rfg From brian.nisbet at heanet.ie Thu Apr 16 10:34:36 2020 From: brian.nisbet at heanet.ie (Brian Nisbet) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 08:34:36 +0000 Subject: [address-policy-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election In-Reply-To: <82660.1587021916@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: <82660.1587021916@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: Ronald, While obviously I can only make comments for AA-WG (I note there are many WGs in x-post) I need to point out that this is not a suitable email for this working group. The NCC Exec Board elections are a matter for the NCC members, not this WG nor any other, despite any cross-over in membership. Obviously you may speak to whomever you wish on this matter, but please do not use this mailing list as a vehicle for that. It is not part of the charter nor purpose of the WG. I would also point out that the order of candidates on the website can change, so while I am explicitly not asking you to make any more specific comments, I would point out that mentioning someone's place on a list is not useful and is potentially very harmful. I would, while again asking you not to make any more specific comments about who you are talking about, ask that you acknowledge this. I would please ask you and all members of this list to be extremely careful in regards to mentioning or alluding to any specific people and their activities. Thanks, Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet at heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________ From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette Sent: Thursday 16 April 2020 08:25 To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net ; db-wg at ripe.net ; routing-wg at ripe.net ; address-policy-wg at ripe.net Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Greetings all, I know that all is not right with the world right now, and that most of you, like me, have much more pressing things on your minds right now, but someone just sent me the following link and I cannot exactly ignore it: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fparticipate%2Fmeetings%2Fgm%2Fmeetings%2Fmay-2020%2Fconfirmed-candidates&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7Cd7c81f06348b4f53dca108d7e1d75a95%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C1%7C637226187374036509&sdata=wy76n6BJ0G9TZ9rEmO%2BdoF%2FWFk7Ds3nb5ncvZGPztoo%3D&reserved=0 I would like to call everyone's attention to the last of the three candidates who have, it seems, "qualified" as candidates for open seats of the RIPE NCC Executive Board. As I have already said, I know that things are bad in the world right now, but I must ask this question: Is there really no one other than these three candidates who is willing and/or able to stand for the three open seats on the RIPE NCC Executive board... three open seats that will be voted on at the next general meeting, 13-15 May 2020 ? If not, then it seems that RIPE NCC will soon be following in the new tradition, established first by AFRINIC only last year, of placing well and widely known crooks on it board. I desperately hope it won't come to that, but that is not for me to decide. The decision is in your hands dear friends. Regards, rfg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ripedenis at yahoo.co.uk Thu Apr 16 14:05:13 2020 From: ripedenis at yahoo.co.uk (ripedenis at yahoo.co.uk) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [address-policy-wg] [db-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election In-Reply-To: References: <82660.1587021916@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: <549891798.2822912.1587038713112@mail.yahoo.com> I would like to second Brian's comments below. The DB-WG has no mandate to concern itself with issues concerning the RIPE NCC Exec Board. Any discussion would be inappropriate on this mailing list. cheersdenis co-chair DB-WG On Thursday, 16 April 2020, 10:34:54 CEST, Brian Nisbet via db-wg wrote: Ronald, While obviously I can only make comments for AA-WG (I note there are many WGs in x-post) I need to point out that this is not a suitable email for this working group. The NCC Exec Board elections are a matter for the NCC members, not this WG nor any other, despite any cross-over in membership. Obviously you may speak to whomever you wish on this matter, but please do not use this mailing list as a vehicle for that. It is not part of the charter nor purpose of the WG. I would also point out that the order of candidates on the website can change, so while I am explicitly not asking you to make any more specific comments, I would point out that mentioning someone's place on a list is not useful and is potentially very harmful. I would, while again asking you not to make any more specific comments about who you are talking about, ask that you acknowledge this. I would please ask you and all members of this list to be extremely careful in regards to mentioning or alluding to any specific people and their activities.? Thanks, BrianCo-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet? Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet at heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270? From: anti-abuse-wg on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette Sent: Thursday 16 April 2020 08:25 To: anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net ; db-wg at ripe.net ; routing-wg at ripe.net ; address-policy-wg at ripe.net Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election?CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. Greetings all, I know that all is not right with the world right now, and that most of you, like me, have much more pressing things on your minds right now, but someone just sent me the following link and I cannot exactly ignore it: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fparticipate%2Fmeetings%2Fgm%2Fmeetings%2Fmay-2020%2Fconfirmed-candidates&data=02%7C01%7Cbrian.nisbet%40heanet.ie%7Cd7c81f06348b4f53dca108d7e1d75a95%7Ccd9e8269dfb648e082538b7baf8d3391%7C0%7C1%7C637226187374036509&sdata=wy76n6BJ0G9TZ9rEmO%2BdoF%2FWFk7Ds3nb5ncvZGPztoo%3D&reserved=0 I would like to call everyone's attention to the last of the three candidates who have, it seems, "qualified" as candidates for open seats of the RIPE NCC Executive Board. As I have already said, I know that things are bad in the world right now, but I must ask this question:? Is there really no one other than these three candidates who is willing and/or able to stand for the three open seats on the RIPE NCC Executive board... three open seats that will be voted on at the next general meeting, 13-15 May 2020 ? If not, then it seems that RIPE NCC will soon be following in the new tradition, established first by AFRINIC only last year, of placing well and widely known crooks on it board. I desperately hope it won't come to that, but that is not for me to decide. The decision is in your hands dear friends. Regards, rfg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From randy at psg.com Thu Apr 16 17:07:43 2020 From: randy at psg.com (Randy Bush) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 08:07:43 -0700 Subject: [address-policy-wg] [db-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election In-Reply-To: <82660.1587021916@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: <82660.1587021916@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: perhaps, instead of really rude ad homina, you could try to be constructive by finding and nominating a really excellent candidate or two. randy From rfg at tristatelogic.com Fri Apr 17 07:57:33 2020 From: rfg at tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 22:57:33 -0700 Subject: [address-policy-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1137.1587103053@segfault.tristatelogic.com> In message , Brian Nisbet wrote: >While obviously I can only make comments for AA-WG (I note there are many >WGs in x-post) I need to point out that this is not a suitable email for >this working group. Others may disagree. I most certainly do. The Anti-Abuse Working Group has been repeatedly given ample opportunities to provide a formal definition for the term "abuse" with respect to the Internet, and Internet resources. It has declined all of these opportunities. It logically and inescapably follows from that fact that as far as the entire RIPE community goes, "abuse" remains in the eye of the beholder. I know more than a few people, both on this list and elsewhere, who, like me, are of the opinion that active participation in the fradulent theft of IP address blocks, regadless of which portion of the world's Internet they are stolen from, consititutes "abuse" of a kind that quite properly is and should be a concern of this working group. Also and likewise, I know more than a few people, both in this Working Group, and elsewhere, who, like me, are of the opinion that the act of attempting to fradulently extort IP address assets from the rightful owner of said assets, e.g. the City of Cape Town, South Africa, is "abuse" of a type that is and rightly should be of concern to this Working Group, and further, that these acts are also a repugnant abuse against simple honesty, decency, and humanity generally, and ones that cannot be either excused or dismissed, let alone rewarded with a RIPE NCC executive board seat. You, Brian, along with every other member of this Working Group had your opportunity to codify a definition of "abuse" that would explicitly exclude theft, fraud, and extortion, thuse rendering exactly such gross misdeeds explicitly irrelevant to this Working Group. You declined to do so, as did others. It follows that you cannot now say that such acts have no relevance to the Anti-Abuse Working Group. You are the Chainman of the Working Group. You are not the King... an entirely salient point which our own Mr. Trump has of late needed to be reminded of also. Theft, fraud, and extortion, especially as they relates to IP address allocations, as in this case, may be something that you personally prefer to turn a blind eye to, but your personal preferences in this regard cannot and will not override the conscience of those who prefer to see things as they are, based on abundant evidence, even if those members of this WG who still place some value on simple decency and honesty are in the minority. Regards, rfg From brian.nisbet at heanet.ie Fri Apr 17 10:44:17 2020 From: brian.nisbet at heanet.ie (Brian Nisbet) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 08:44:17 +0000 Subject: [address-policy-wg] [db-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election In-Reply-To: <1137.1587103053@segfault.tristatelogic.com> References: , <1137.1587103053@segfault.tristatelogic.com> Message-ID: (Yes, I'm still X-Posting, folks, this will be my last email to all the copied WGs) Ronald, I have no issue with this group fighting abuse, I never have. In fact I would warmly welcome more policies, documentation and actions that can do that. That isn't to say there haven't been some put forward, albeit not all of those have reached consensus. That is the nature of our system, but I will say again that we are further along than we were and I hope that progress, even if it's slower than some may like, continues. What I do not think is suitable is a mail to this and other lists putting out vague comments, with the most specific (ie the position on a list) referring to the wrong person, about an election that is specific to members of the RIPE NCC. The crossover is significant, but far from total and I do not feel this is the proper place for electioneering. But you are right, I am not the king. Nor would I ever want to be. I am a co-chair of the AA-WG and as such am a facilitator, a coordinator and a go-between between this group and other groups. Part of that role is to facilitate discussion on this list, including the kind of email I sent yesterday. However I was appointed by this Working Group and it is entirely up to the Working Group if they wish me to continue in the job. The process, for those who are curious, is contained within this document: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/anti-abuse/anti-abuse-wg-chair-selection-process This is not done to garner support, nor check in on how I'm doing, albeit feedback is always welcome, rather I want to be as transparent as possible. There is a lot of inertia in our community, as there is in others, and sometimes people assume that those in what we shall loosely refer to as "leadership positions" are immovable. Anyway, to return to your point and that of others. Is this Working Group, as a single entity, doing enough to fight abuse on the Internet? Almost certainly not. Are many, many members, including people such as yourself Ronald, working very hard in a lot of places? Absolutely. How do we do more? Well, to my mind, we go back to the charter (which can, of course, be changed by the Working Group at any point in time) and ask why we have never done the documentation work that's in there? Also, we continue with incremental policy changes, which is a long, hard, slow road, but gets results. I would also be mindful of what T?nu said in regards to outside regulation, something I have mentioned at times. But as with any WG, the power and action is in the hands of the members, not *just* the Co-Chairs, who are members too. As a final point, if you have a preference as to who you would like to see elected in May and you don't have a vote yourself, then I encourage you to reach out to your friends and colleagues who are members of the RIPE NCC to discuss it with them, broadcast it to suitable fora, hire planes to write messages in the sky, but please, don't do it here. Thank you, Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG Brian Nisbet Service Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's National Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin D01 X8N7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nisbet at heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 ________________________________________ From: db-wg on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette via db-wg Sent: Friday 17 April 2020 06:57 Cc: db-wg at ripe.net; routing-wg at ripe.net; address-policy-wg at ripe.net; anti-abuse-wg at ripe.net Subject: Re: [db-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election CAUTION[External]: This email originated from outside of the organisation. Do not click on links or open the attachments unless you recognise the sender and know the content is safe. In message , Brian Nisbet wrote: >While obviously I can only make comments for AA-WG (I note there are many >WGs in x-post) I need to point out that this is not a suitable email for >this working group. Others may disagree. I most certainly do. The Anti-Abuse Working Group has been repeatedly given ample opportunities to provide a formal definition for the term "abuse" with respect to the Internet, and Internet resources. It has declined all of these opportunities. It logically and inescapably follows from that fact that as far as the entire RIPE community goes, "abuse" remains in the eye of the beholder. I know more than a few people, both on this list and elsewhere, who, like me, are of the opinion that active participation in the fradulent theft of IP address blocks, regadless of which portion of the world's Internet they are stolen from, consititutes "abuse" of a kind that quite properly is and should be a concern of this working group. Also and likewise, I know more than a few people, both in this Working Group, and elsewhere, who, like me, are of the opinion that the act of attempting to fradulently extort IP address assets from the rightful owner of said assets, e.g. the City of Cape Town, South Africa, is "abuse" of a type that is and rightly should be of concern to this Working Group, and further, that these acts are also a repugnant abuse against simple honesty, decency, and humanity generally, and ones that cannot be either excused or dismissed, let alone rewarded with a RIPE NCC executive board seat. You, Brian, along with every other member of this Working Group had your opportunity to codify a definition of "abuse" that would explicitly exclude theft, fraud, and extortion, thuse rendering exactly such gross misdeeds explicitly irrelevant to this Working Group. You declined to do so, as did others. It follows that you cannot now say that such acts have no relevance to the Anti-Abuse Working Group. You are the Chainman of the Working Group. You are not the King... an entirely salient point which our own Mr. Trump has of late needed to be reminded of also. Theft, fraud, and extortion, especially as they relates to IP address allocations, as in this case, may be something that you personally prefer to turn a blind eye to, but your personal preferences in this regard cannot and will not override the conscience of those who prefer to see things as they are, based on abundant evidence, even if those members of this WG who still place some value on simple decency and honesty are in the minority. Regards, rfg From elad at netstyle.io Fri Apr 17 23:46:52 2020 From: elad at netstyle.io (Elad Cohen) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2020 21:46:52 +0000 Subject: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Please forgive me for not writing an official response in first set of Ronald's online madness months ago, I was out of hospital after full anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself. Ronald is misery person with nothing and with no one in his life, the only joy that he have in his life - is for him to serve as the front person of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". Here is a presentation that "The Spamhaus Project" wrote on themselves (in the following link) and according to it Spamhaus is an illegal anonymous organization - they receive a massive amount of illegally obtained privacy data of internet users from internet companies and internet organizations on a regular basis - and then they share it in illegal way (without any warranty) with law enforcement agencies. https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation Ronald doesn't deny himself being part of "The Spamhaus Project", not only that - but his old friend Hank Nussbacher is also part of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project", Hank reminds me Judas Iscariot - Hank obviously have other interests - it is very sad to see a person at the age of Hank acting like a little child. All the few reports that were made were made by reporters which are connected to "The Spamhaus Project" and that are part of "The Spamhaus Project" - not only that, the source of the media reports is a person in "The Spamhaus Project" which is the owner of that illegal twitter account: https://twitter.com/underthebreach , that person is a criminal according to his own words in his own twitter account - and that person is also a master of cyber influence operations (just like what Coconut Guilmette and Cheerleader Nussbacher are doing here, to influence public opinion without any single proof) - and the owner of that twitter account is also an employee of the israeli-based company GeoEdge which financially benefit from that media report because they are a direct competitor of the company using the exact same netblock, so now I'm explaining to you that that root of this all fake story is just business competition, and in addition Coconut Guilmette also attacked the Israeli-based company Divinetworks in Nanog (Coconut Guilmette searched an unreasonable way why they received a specific grant from a global world organization and also defamed them) - so here is why he did it - the Israeli-based company Divinetworks is also a direct competitor of the Israeli-based company GeoEdge - that their employee is a criminal and the owner of the illegal twitter account https://twitter.com/underthebreach and also the "source" for the fake few media reports. In the following link you can see how a high manager in GeoEdge is highly proud in how customers attracted to him after the "low value" of competitors, if only the world would knew how that company does business. https://imgur.com/7DF1NSP That company GeoEdge is not only a criminal company in the way that they do business (because their criminal employee in "The Spamhaus Project" is the one pumped Coconut Guilmette proof-less ideas), but that company is also a criminal in the way that they are tax-evading since 2005 (they are registered in Cyprus with fake-single-owner abroad while they have more actual hidden owners in Israel that didn't pay any tax for their income since 2005, and one of the registered owners is using an international fake name and he is a professional money-laundering person, not only for that Israeli company). They (Coconut Guilmette, Cheerleader Nussbacher and their mob friends at "The Spamhaus Project") are very very afraid of me releasing all the information that I found out on the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and that is the only reason that they are attacking me personally in such way, they are trying to ruin my good name - but they didn't succeed and they will not succeed - because anyone that knows me and anyone that will personally know me - will know what they are trying to do and that what they are writing is 100% false. All the personal attack against me - is only because I dared to stood up against "The Spamhaus Project" which is intimidating and hurting many businesses online, and I would and will do it again and again and again, I'm not the kind of a misery bendover jew like Hank that will sell his values and his being for a title, a group acceptance or a few cents. Coconut Guilmette, is not only a sick person, in body and mind, but also a racist and an antisemitic, you can see in the following links his stereotypical mindset: https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX (Coconut Guilmette opinion on all Dutch people as a whole - "Dutch are any more inclined toward cybercrime") https://imgur.com/WUZvdNJ (Coconut Guilmette opinion on all Colombian Network Operators usage of the internet as a whole - "Undoubtedly drug smuggling over HTTP") https://imgur.com/a/1ULfVEC (Coconut Guilmette opinion on the City of Chicago including all of its citizens as a whole - "American city most known for its high ideals and consistantly ethical behavior, Chicago") https://imgur.com/AQCmZlk (Coconut Guilmette identified as racist in Nanog) https://imgur.com/a/Rzrbxkz (Coconut Guilmette identified as antisemitic in Nanog) Besides the above links, Coconut Guilmette is specifically calling me with two words and here he is quoting Shakespeare: https://imgur.com/AcmgwEX , the two words that Coconut Guilmette is calling me are being used in Shakespeare litrature to identify jews in an antisemitic way, Coconut Guilmette is an antisemitic, I'm very sorry to write it but Ripe is not a decisive organization towards racism or antisemitism, the Tone in Ripe management and in Ripe board and in this working group co-chairs, is a very narrow tone that only reflect the good of the people in their positions, Ripe board & management are not taking any actions for Ripe to be a multi-culture multi-national unpolitical organization that it needs to be with the tolerance to anyone and with the decisive intolerance to racism or antisemitism. The encouragement of Cheerleader Nussbacher is even worst because Cheerleader Nussbacher is encouraging someone which is a racist and an antisemitic. Hank, how more self-hating jew can you be ? to support such person only to be part of an illegal anonymous organization ? to support racism ? to support antisemitism ? And to the rest of the community, anyone that wrote to this person - "nice story, but you could say it in other words" - you are a lowlife as Hank is, you don't treat a racist or an antisemitic person with tolerance, period. Ripe is a RIR which is spread over 3 continents over many countries, Ripe members are different from each other by all means, I would expect Ripe community not to tolerate racism in any way and when Ripe members see it - to stand up - like I dared to stand up against "The Spamhaus Project". Ron, seeing a person at your age that knows to get attention only by using racism and antisemitism is sad, but seeing the lowlife Judas Iscariot cheerleading your mental illness is sadder. Here are only some of the real identities of the people behind "The Spamhaus Project": "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/) "Thomas Morrison" - Daniel R. Thomas (https://personal.cis.strath.ac.uk/d.thomas/) "Pete Dawes" - Ildiko Pete (https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~ip358/) "Vincent Hanna" - Vincent Schonau of Open-Xchange (https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincentschonau/) "Milly Fawcett" - Kelly Molloy of FarSight Security (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kelly-molloy-b886442/) Among others Commericial companies behind "The Spamhaus Project": ThreatSTOP FarSight Security Fastly Cymru Among others Keep on playing with me Coconut Guilmette and Cheerleader Nussbacher and I guarantee to you that the full list will be written here, you can hurt me as much as you please - I am not boneless and will not fold like Hank "Judas Iscariot" Nussbacher. The only reason that Coconut Guilmette returned to life in this thread - is because I wrote two days ago the real identity of "Rob Shultz" (which is Rob McEwen of https://www.invaluement.com/ ) to the co-chairs of this working group with CC to Ripe Board and to Ripe Management, I asked for the initial post of lies of Coconut Guilmette to be removed and I showed to them the relation of one of the current co-chairs of that working group to the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which the poster Coconut Guilmette is related to it too. (also in the past there was a co-chair of that working group which is part of "The Spamhaus Project", Richard D G Cox, as you can see in his presentation that I linked to it above) That is the only reason (that I revealed that "Rob Shultz" from "The Spamhaus Project" is Rob McEwen) that Coconut Guilmette and Boneless Nussbacher are personally attacking me, not only that - but soon you will also see a new fake media report about me from the same reporter that used the criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach as his source - all of it (like it was then and like they are trying to do now) - is to maneuver the subject of who are the real people behind "The Spamhaus Project" and to which internet companies and internet organizations they are connected to. "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization and an unregulated organization, by being unregulated it is abused by the some of the members of it for making money, without any supervision, for example the criminal which is the owner of the illegal twitter account https://twitter.com/underthebreach that did what it did only that GeoEdge will earn a few more cents, such as Laura Atkins from WordToTheWise which is selling a Spamhaus listing removal service (https://wordtothewise.com), such as Vincent Schonau (AKA "Vincent Hanna" of "The Spamhaus Project") from Open-Xchange, a company that Spamhaus are attacking its competitors, and there are many more Spamhaus members that are using Spamhaus for their financial benefits. "The Spamhaus Project" - by being unregulated and unsupervised - is also being used as tool to attack business competitors, this is something that should wake up each and every member of the internet community. Hank, why do you let Coconut Guilmette to do the hard work for you (of defaming me) ? because you know that he have nothing in his life and a lawsuit against him will not result any financial aid ? why are you abusing his mental illness ? you know that he is not fine, why don't you help him like a good old friend ? Go ahead and write what Ron is writing so I will be able to sue you locally in Israel (I'm willing to pay you 100,000 NIS if you are right in a single thing that you wrote or that you will write against me, are you willing to do the same ? are you willing to put your money where your words are? or are you boneless that can only exploit the state of your old friend? ) I respect Ripe NCC and Respect all the members of Ripe Anti-Abuse Working Group. (P.S.: you can recognize now any member of "The Spamhaus Project" that will jump now, if he will attack me or support Ron, you can just ask him a simple question - "show us a single proof" - and you will see that no proof will be displayed, because all of it is part of an illegal "cyber influence operation" by "The Spamhaus Project" pumped by the criminal https://twitter.com/underthebreach) Respectfully, Elad -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Elad ________________________________ From: Gert Doering Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:08 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: address-policy-wg at ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Hi, On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 09:46:52PM +0000, Elad Cohen wrote: > Please forgive me for not writing an official response in first set of Ronald's online madness months ago, I was out of hospital after full anesthesia and it took me months to get back to myself. Please stop posting abuse-wg and NCC membership related stuff to the address-policy WG list (and other WG lists), unless it is *relevant* for the list in question. Your squabble with Spamhaus is not relevant for RIPE address-policy. Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. 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Among these acceptable and inacceptable things is "ad-hominem attacks" - so whatever quarrels you have with others, calling someone a "Coconut" on a public list mostly reflects on yourself and your ability to handle personal discrepancies on a professional level (which is, I might say, a strong requirement for a RIPE NCC executive board position). Now, feel free to yell at me privately all you want, but keep non-AP-related stuff off the AP WG list. Gert Doering -- AWPG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Ronald is aCoconut by many people, and he is defaming me and calling me in names for many many months, including in the post in your own working group - which you completely ignored - so this says a lot about yourself and about your title as a co-chair, and as I already wrote - Ronald is just the front person the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which have many contacts and co-chairs in Ripe working groups (like Richard D G Cox that was the co-chair of the Ripe Anti Abuse Working Group) - so like I wrote I do expect to receives unrelated attacks on myself from ethically-distorted members of that illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" in their high positions - and obviously you are attacking me like you are doing now when you wrote nothing, completely nothing, regarding Ronald post in your group when he used antisemitic phrases against me there without a single proof, when all of it is part of a "cyber influence operation" from "The Spamhaus Project". So go ahead, Gert, attack me once more in an unbalanced way. Respectfully, Elad ________________________________ From: Gert Doering Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:56 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Gert Doering; address-policy-wg at ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Hi, On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:11:12PM +0000, Elad Cohen wrote: > I responded to Coconut Guilmette that posted in your list. > > If you let him post in your list then you should allow me to respond to him in your list. The mails from the other WG chairs have made it very clear that crossposting to unrelated WGs is not seen as acceptable use of our lists. We're not moderating the lists, so yes, anyone can post anything - but usually people are considerate enough to not do so. If someone slips, we correct, and expect others to listen and learn. 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Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com https://blacknight.blog / http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park, Sleaty Road, Graiguecullen, Carlow, R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: address-policy-wg on behalf of Elad Cohen Date: Saturday 18 April 2020 at 11:16 To: Gert Doering Cc: "address-policy-wg at ripe.net" Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Gert, I didn't attack anyone, I only responded to a defamation post against me in your working group, which to it you didn't write anything. Ronald is aCoconut by many people, and he is defaming me and calling me in names for many many months, including in the post in your own working group - which you completely ignored - so this says a lot about yourself and about your title as a co-chair, and as I already wrote - Ronald is just the front person the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which have many contacts and co-chairs in Ripe working groups (like Richard D G Cox that was the co-chair of the Ripe Anti Abuse Working Group) - so like I wrote I do expect to receives unrelated attacks on myself from ethically-distorted members of that illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" in their high positions - and obviously you are attacking me like you are doing now when you wrote nothing, completely nothing, regarding Ronald post in your group when he used antisemitic phrases against me there without a single proof, when all of it is part of a "cyber influence operation" from "The Spamhaus Project". So go ahead, Gert, attack me once more in an unbalanced way. Respectfully, Elad ________________________________ From: Gert Doering Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:56 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Gert Doering; address-policy-wg at ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Hi, On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:11:12PM +0000, Elad Cohen wrote: > I responded to Coconut Guilmette that posted in your list. > > If you let him post in your list then you should allow me to respond to him in your list. The mails from the other WG chairs have made it very clear that crossposting to unrelated WGs is not seen as acceptable use of our lists. We're not moderating the lists, so yes, anyone can post anything - but usually people are considerate enough to not do so. If someone slips, we correct, and expect others to listen and learn. 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(Note that Ronald did not mention your name at all, so it is very helpful that you make abundantly clear *who* he refers to, so we can do a much better informed executive board election). > - so this says a lot about yourself and about your title as a co-chair, Yes! I was so hoping for a new round of "Gert Doering is totally unworthy of being a WG chair". We haven't had this in a long while. > So go ahead, Gert, attack me once more in an unbalanced way. I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just trying to remind people of house rules. You are are calling names, and you are damaging your own reputation by repeatedly refusing to adhere to list etiquette aka "house rules". Gert Doering -- AWPG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. 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All I did is to reply to Coconut Guilmette after his many months of defaming me here and not only here and he did use my name in his illegal defamation, only because I found how who are the real people behind "The Spamhaus Project", I used the same way of expression that Coconut Guilmette is using for many months against me only to hurt me and to damage me, with the support of his mob friends from "The Spamhaus Project". You should have write of your connection to illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" before you attacked me as you did - and as I wrote - I am expecting unrelated and unbalanced attacks to me from the mob friends of illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" - and it will not shut me down - I will keep writing the truth. Respectfully, Elad ________________________________ From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:27 PM To: Elad Cohen ; Gert Doering Cc: address-policy-wg at ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Elad I?ve no idea who you are nor do I care. And until you posted your rather long and bizarre email I suspect many of us didn?t even know that the previous email even referred to you. In any case. You are, however, running for election in which I and other members get to vote. Do you honestly think anyone in their right mind is going to vote for you after this childish and highly unprofessional behaviour? Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com https://blacknight.blog / http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park, Sleaty Road, Graiguecullen, Carlow, R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 From: address-policy-wg on behalf of Elad Cohen Date: Saturday 18 April 2020 at 11:16 To: Gert Doering Cc: "address-policy-wg at ripe.net" Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Gert, I didn't attack anyone, I only responded to a defamation post against me in your working group, which to it you didn't write anything. Ronald is aCoconut by many people, and he is defaming me and calling me in names for many many months, including in the post in your own working group - which you completely ignored - so this says a lot about yourself and about your title as a co-chair, and as I already wrote - Ronald is just the front person the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which have many contacts and co-chairs in Ripe working groups (like Richard D G Cox that was the co-chair of the Ripe Anti Abuse Working Group) - so like I wrote I do expect to receives unrelated attacks on myself from ethically-distorted members of that illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" in their high positions - and obviously you are attacking me like you are doing now when you wrote nothing, completely nothing, regarding Ronald post in your group when he used antisemitic phrases against me there without a single proof, when all of it is part of a "cyber influence operation" from "The Spamhaus Project". So go ahead, Gert, attack me once more in an unbalanced way. Respectfully, Elad ________________________________ From: Gert Doering Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 9:56 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Gert Doering; address-policy-wg at ripe.net Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette Hi, On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:11:12PM +0000, Elad Cohen wrote: > I responded to Coconut Guilmette that posted in your list. > > If you let him post in your list then you should allow me to respond to him in your list. The mails from the other WG chairs have made it very clear that crossposting to unrelated WGs is not seen as acceptable use of our lists. We're not moderating the lists, so yes, anyone can post anything - but usually people are considerate enough to not do so. If someone slips, we correct, and expect others to listen and learn. 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I'd be grateful, for one, if we could. -- T?ma From gert at space.net Sat Apr 18 12:40:27 2020 From: gert at space.net (Gert Doering) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 12:40:27 +0200 Subject: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20200418104027.GW50230@Space.Net> Hi, On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 10:35:33AM +0000, Elad Cohen wrote: > You are lying and you are part of "The Spamhaus Project", your company is sponsoring "The Spamhaus Project" as can be seen here: Stop it. And to all other readers: if you want to reply to Elad, please do not copy the list, even if it is very tempting. Nothing useful for the address-policy working group can come from further mails in this thread. Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. 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"The Spamhaus Project" share massive amount of illegal obtained privacy data of internet users that they receive on a regular basis from their secret contacts - like Toma - in many internet organizations and in many internet companies - according to their own presentation that they wrote on themselves: https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation "The Spamhaus Project" have secret members in CO-chairs of the Ripe working groups, exactly like Richard D G Cox was (that wrote the above linked presentation), so if any unbalanced action will taken towards me from a CO-chair of a Ripe working group - I will not be surprised. 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The issue is just that your topic is annoying and hardly interesting to anyone else except for you. -- T?ma From elad at netstyle.io Sat Apr 18 13:10:30 2020 From: elad at netstyle.io (Elad Cohen) Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 11:10:30 +0000 Subject: [address-policy-wg] My response to Ronald Guilmette In-Reply-To: References: <7LLE275Z.RHJN126O@mobil.space.net> <20200418103330.GU50230@Space.Net> , Message-ID: Toma, You are making fun of yourself, you are clearly part of "The Spamhaus Project" and taking part in that illegal "cyber influence operation" Two days after I revealed to the Ripe Management & Ripe Board, that the real identity of "Rob Shultz" from "The Spamhaus Project" is Rob McEwen from https://www.invaluement.com/ , 3 things happened: Hank defamed me in this working group, you defamed me in Nanog and I also received an inquiry from the spamhaus-inhouse-media-reporter that used the criminal and "The Spamhaus Project" member https://twitter.com/underthebreach as his source to defame me. This is after months of Spamhaus being quiet, I only reached to Ripe Board & Ripe Management to remove the initial illegal defamation post of Coconut Guilmette because his post is full of lies, and you know it as a member of "The Spamhaus Project", you know of everything that is being done here, and that is all is of a very intelligent "cyber influence operation". It is also very very sad to see you taking part of that illegal anonymous organization (just to get for yourself connections/title/career) when that illegal anonymous organization is against your own country as a whole, as written by that organization in their presentation: https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation You are an agent of that illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project" which is seeing your country as an enemy. 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Message-ID: <56776291-6C5B-4037-AC2D-A596EEDBC498@bais.name> Hi APWG folks, Below you can find a draft for the RIPE address policy WG meeting's agenda, which will be virtual at RIPE80 with the following time slot: Wednesday, May 13, 11:00 - 11:45 As there are currently no active policy proposals and the discussion should be done on the mailinglist anyway, we don?t have any presentations scheduled on new policy proposals. If you have anything else you want to see on the agenda, or if we need to change anything, please let us know. Regards, Gert D?ring & Erik Bais, APWG chairs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Wednesday, 11:00-11:45 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- A. Administrative Matters (welcome, thanking the scribe, approving the minutes, etc.) B. Re-Selection of co-chair - Erik Bais completed a term. C. Current Policy Topics - Petrit Hasani - NCC PDO - global policy overview "what's going on?" - common policy topics in all regions (end of IPv4, transfers, ...) - overview over concluded proposals in the RIPE region since RIPE 79 - brief overview of new proposals (if any) D. Feedback From NCC Registration Service - Nikolas Pediaditis - IPv4 runout status, initial waiting list experience Z. AOB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From phasani at ripe.net Thu Apr 30 09:21:32 2020 From: phasani at ripe.net (Petrit Hasani) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 09:21:32 +0200 Subject: [address-policy-wg] Policy Proposal Implemented: 2019-06 "Multiple Editorial Changes in IPv6 Policy" Message-ID: <5168997F-CED6-4488-9233-15713D9618E4@ripe.net> Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce that we have implemented RIPE Policy Proposal 2019-06, "Multiple Editorial Changes in IPv6 Policy". This proposal aimed to remove obsoleted text and simplify the IPv6 policy. LIRs will no longer need to submit a request to the RIPE NCC to create IPv6 end site assignments larger than /48. The LIR will, however, need to justify such assignments should there be a RIPE NCC audit or when making a subsequent allocation request. The archived policy proposal can be found at: https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-06 The RIPE Document, "IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy" is available at: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-738 Kind regards, -- Petrit Hasani Policy Officer RIPE NCC -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 833 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP URL: From cfriacas at fccn.pt Thu Apr 30 09:39:50 2020 From: cfriacas at fccn.pt (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Carlos_Fria=E7as?=) Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:39:50 +0100 (WEST) Subject: [address-policy-wg] Policy Proposal Implemented: 2019-06 "Multiple Editorial Changes in IPv6 Policy" In-Reply-To: <5168997F-CED6-4488-9233-15713D9618E4@ripe.net> References: <5168997F-CED6-4488-9233-15713D9618E4@ripe.net> Message-ID: Greetings, We have come a longgggggggg way since "You need to have 200 customers in order to receive an IPv6 allocation from the RIPE NCC". Well done everyone! Regards, Carlos On Thu, 30 Apr 2020, Petrit Hasani wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > We are pleased to announce that we have implemented RIPE Policy Proposal 2019-06, "Multiple Editorial Changes in IPv6 Policy". > > This proposal aimed to remove obsoleted text and simplify the IPv6 policy. > > LIRs will no longer need to submit a request to the RIPE NCC to create IPv6 end site assignments larger than /48. The LIR will, however, need to justify such assignments should there be a RIPE NCC audit or when making a subsequent allocation request. > > The archived policy proposal can be found at: > https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-06 > > The RIPE Document, "IPv6 Address Allocation and Assignment Policy" is available at: > https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-738 > > Kind regards, > -- > Petrit Hasani > Policy Officer > RIPE NCC