[address-policy-wg] 2016-03 New Version and Impact Analysis Published (Locking Down the Final /8 Policy)
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Ciprian Nica
office at ip-broker.uk
Wed Oct 19 14:51:12 CEST 2016
As I have mentioned before, getting a /22 only to sell it after a couple weeks shows that it was only requested in order to make some money and not for a real need. It's a small glitch that many took advantage of. Also the merger & acquisition policy at that time suited your interests very well but that's neither important. What raises a question is the fact that you say you treat opinions based on the person that issues that opinion and not just the idea and that you induce the idea that a minority's voice should be ignored because it's obvious a minority would just oppose the majority. These are the problems that need to be dealt with. I will never support discrimination based on appartenance to a minority or personal feelings based on previous experience. Yes, start praising people if that's the purpose of this list. Hitler was also a very praised man. Let's stop with the personal feelings between us and discuss the ideas which are the important ones. I will not bring into discussion the "petty crime" that you did by taking advantage of the policies and putting aside a /22 from the last /8. It was wrong of me to mention it and it really is not important at all. Ciprian On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Gert Doering <gert at space.net> wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 02:34:40PM +0300, Ciprian Nica wrote: > > It's a simple question from a member of the community to one of the WG > > Chairs: did you abuse the last /8 or not ? Do you consider yourself a > > neutral arbitrer or not ? Do you consider yourself the one that should be > > judging others ? Or is it your "job" to shut the voices that are not > > according to your interests ? > > Since you insist on riding that horse, I can no longer ignore it - so > you'll have your answer. On record. > > Yes, one of the LIRs that I represent in RIPE member issues (de.space) > is holding two /22s out of 185/8. The second /22 came into this LIR > together with two /19s, some equipment, an extra employee, and a number > of customers when we acquired a smaller regional ISP in 2014. > > As per community policy, this is well within letter and *spirit* of the > policy - the LIR acquired was not "set up to get a /22 and be bought" > (it existed for some 15 years), it was providing ISP services, and > there were reasons that do not need to be disclosed that the owners wanted > to sell it, which had nothing to do with IP addresses. The acquisition > went through the regular M&A process with the RIPE NCC, and all documents > were properly scrutinized (and I can tell stories how much detail the > NCC will check, and how much paperwork is involved). > > > Does the number of IP addresses one of the LIRs I can represent hold > have any relevance on my serving as WG chair? No. > > > Am I neutral regarding address policy? Well, I do my best. > > Sometimes this is not easy, as I do have strong concerns for the well-being > of the Internet globally and in the RIPE region - but this is why there > is two chairs here: Sander will double-check every decision made, and > everything is public anyway. Summaries are written for a reason, and > decisions are based *on posts on the list*, so it does not really matter > how neutral I am, as everything is public, and you can double-check the > conclusions (and possible call up the arbitration procedure). > > > So, yes, I consider myself still suitable as a WG chair for the address > policy WG. > > Gert Doering > -- APWG chair > -- > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? > > SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard > Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann > D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) > Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/attachments/20161019/ebd92acf/attachment.html>
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