[address-policy-wg] 2015-05 Discussion Period extended until 13 May 2016 (Last /8 Allocation Criteria Revision)
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Momchil Petrov
m.petrov at i-net.bg
Sun Apr 17 23:00:04 CEST 2016
+100 the statistic saying the same, more and more will be Momchil On 17.4.2016 г. 23:19 ч., Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN wrote: > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016, at 10:42, Lu Heng wrote: >> As I understand, more and more end user are becoming LIR as their ISP >> refuse to give them IP, therefore it fundamentally changed the >> very definition of LIR. >> >> The outbreak in the member mailing list last time reminds us how big that >> group could be. >> >> What current ISP doing nowadays, instead of charging customer and apply to >> RIPE for their customer's IP, they ask their customer come to RIPE to >> become their own LIR and get their own IP then manage it for the customer. >> In which, results what we see today, shipping companies, banks, even >> airlines become LIR. > Hi, > > This is exactly the point where the community failed. We keep saying > that there is no more IPv4, and in the meanwhile more and more companies > (non-ISP) discover that they can still get their needed IPv4 space, with > the bonus of becoming provider independent. In the process of doing > this, they "eat up" a /22 even if they only need a /23 or a /24 (or > less, but that can't be routed). > > At the same time they still hear (for more than 10 years already) that > IPv6 is coming, but still don't see it "coming close enough" (no, they > don't really care about Google, FB, and Netflix - and if they do, it's > more about how to block them). >
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