[address-policy-wg] 2015-01 Draft Document and Impact Analysis Published (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)
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Ciprian Nica
office at ip-broker.uk
Tue Jun 9 18:09:50 CEST 2015
Hi, Each of us has his passions and wants to shout his opinion. I didn't get involved at all in this discussion even though I was aware of every argument from the begining. The RIPE community is not like other masses that can be easily manipulated as most are very intelligent IT professionals. Therefore I considered is better to step asside, as I'm in the IPv4 brokering business. I "saw" a lot of flames and smoke but no real objective, technical, analysis of the policy effects. Therefore I must insist and please contradict me if I'm wrong. In my opinion the adoption of this policy will : - increase membership fees - increase IPv4 address prices - help the last /8 pool become even larger A policy is adopted today for today's situation. Personally I would not care what the original intent was, I would only focus on solving today's issues. I don't expect the original intent was to have a "last /8" pool that would just keep growing "forever". Theese are my arguments against the policy. The only reason that I would sustain it for is the fact that I'm aware of some russians taking advantage and making a profit but I'm also aware that's just a small crumble and it won't affect our bread. Ciprian On 6/9/2015 6:56 PM, Gert Doering wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 06:50:43PM +0300, Ciprian Nica wrote: >> We have another saying in Romania "don't sell the bear's skin while he's >> in the forrest", so I will not consider reasonable that last /8 is in >> any real danger. The available IPv4 resources were in danger and we, the >> entire community, were unable to come up with better policies to >> preserve them, but that's in the past. > > Oh, I could say that we told people very clearly what would come, but > since they refused to go to IPv6, it was inevitable that they would > hit the wall. IPv4 could have been distributed slightly different, > with maybe more stringent checks about actual use (easily fooled), > but in the end, we'd still be where we are now: some people have more > IPv4 space than they need right now, and other people have less than > they would like to have. > > And we do know how the yelling and screaming of total surprise will sound > like if the last /8 is all sold up - and since the community decided that > they do not want that, we want to stick to the intent of the last /8 > policy. This proposal helps achieve that goal. > > Gert Doering > -- APWG chair >
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