[address-policy-wg] Opposing policy 2015-01
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Vladimir Andreev
vladimir at quick-soft.net
Sat Jul 11 21:06:49 CEST 2015
All these words about IPv4 "exhaustion" and evil "abusers" is just a screen to reach some goals for some group of people. I think all sane people understand it perfectly. We already see some consequences of this proposal even BEFORE its acceptance (as Petr Umelov wrote): request count for IPv4 allocations has grow. 11.07.2015, 21:52, "Vladimir Andreev" <vladimir at quick-soft.net>: > Current proposal supporters may also need cheap IP's so this hole will not be closed. > > It's time to spell out that current proposal never had an aim to reduce IPv4 exhaustion. > > 11.07.2015, 21:47, "Petr Umelov" <petr at fast-telecom.net>: >> Don't tell then I did not warn :) >> >> When you will come to your senses and will start the multi LIR hole closing during 6 months, IPv4 will be exhausted >> >> 11.07.2015, 21:39, "Jan Ingvoldstad" <frettled at gmail.com>: >>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 7:30 PM, Petr Umelov <petr at fast-telecom.net> wrote: >>>> Hello, WG. >>>> >>>> I understand you will approve this proposal in any case, you have made a decision in January and should comply with formalities. >>>> >>>> However I see many companies began to open multi LIR accounts and receive additional allocations. >>>> >>>> E.g. >>>> netname: NL-PCXCOP-20150707 >>>> netname: NL-PCXMAD-20150707 >>>> >>>> netname: DK-BORNFIBER5-20150709 >>>> netname: DK-BORNFIBER9-20150709 >>>> >>>> netname: ES-RULZ2-20150710 >>>> netname: ES-RULZ3-20150710 >>>> >>>> netname: ES-SUNNY2-20150710 >>>> netname: ES-SUNNY3-20150710 >>>> >>>> Traders don't want to lose their profit and will begin to provide services to help open new accounts for the same company and companies will be do it by themselves. >>>> >>>> Thus IPv4 pool will be exhausted during 1-2 years. >>>> >>>> I understand the RIPE NCC dislike someone makes profit using RIPE's resources but we should not make emotional decisions. >>> >>> Absolutely, and therefore I suggest that since the above appears to be a big problem for you, that you write down a proposal that will handle this particular problem. >>> >>> Most people want to scratch their itch, and if you scratch it by writing a proposal, your itch can, perhaps, be scratched too. >>> >>> But if you don't write that proposal, nothing will happen, and maybe your worst fears will come true, through your own inaction. >>> >>> It's best that those who see a problem, are the ones to attempt addressing it. >>> -- >>> Jan >> >> -- >> Kind regards, >> Petr Umelov > > -- > With best regards, Vladimir Andreev > General director, QuickSoft LLC > Tel: +7 903 1750503 -- With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503
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