[address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

On 23.04.2015 16:13, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
> OK. I explain this one more time :)
> 
> Just after receiving /22 you should create 2 x "inetnum" (each /23) with type ASSIGNED PA. Formally you are right since you have made assignments.

Which is not the intention. but I agree, obviously we need to clarify
what an assignment is. Please refer to chapter 6 of ripe-643.

ASSIGNED PA: This address space has been assigned to an End User for use
with services provided by the issuing LIR. It cannot be kept when
terminating services provided by the LIR.

So "making an assignment" does *not* mean create a /23 inetnum in
RIPE-DB. If this is your understanding of what an LIR does ... no
further comment.

BR Jens

> 
> Furthermore you can create "route" object and announce your /22. In such case nobody can say "you don't use you allocation" or "you didn't make assignments".
> 
> 23.04.2015, 17:08, "Jens Ott - Opteamax GmbH" <jo at opteamax.de>:
>> On 23.04.2015 14:45, Vladimir Andreev wrote:
>>>>  The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s) from the
>>>>  allocation.
>>>  Please point me where in quoted text you see any prohibition to
>>>  open and merge LIRs with /22's?
>>
>> Buying and merging is not prohibited, _but_ opening LIR, requesting
>> /22 and selling /22 and closing LIR ist probibited, as the LIR did not
>> fullfil his confirmed will to make assignments!!
>>
>> BR
>> Jens
>>>  23.04.2015, 15:43, "Gert Doering" <gert at space.net>:
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 03:41:10PM +0300, Vladimir Andreev
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>  And why receiving /22's for own company is "legitimate" and for
>>>>>  selling is not?
>>>>  *one* /22 per LIR is the last-/8 policy
>>>>
>>>>  not "open lots of LIRs, so a single LIR can have multiple /22s in
>>>>  the end, and circumvent the one-LIR-one-/22-allocated policy".
>>>>
>>>>  Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something
>>>>  today...?
>>>>
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> With best regards, Vladimir Andreev
> General director, QuickSoft LLC
> Tel: +7 903 1750503
> 
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