[address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

Hi Gabriel,

 

This policy is not keep people from opening a new LIR .. it is to keep
people from opening a new LIR and transfer the IP range for profit to
someone else and shutdown the LIR within the first year... 

 

The reason for the proposal is fix it more into the intention on why the
policy was designed as it was …  

 

Every new entry to the market should be able to get a bit of IPv4 … 

 

The intention was not to start a new LIR and sell the /22 to some other
company … either for profit or as a means of getting cheap IP’s …   

 

To give some examples that might look familiar to you :  

 

>From RO.INFINITY to lt.bacloud : 

( From the published Transfer stats page.. ) 

 


185.64.104.0/22

185.64.104.0/22

Infinity Telecom SRL

Informacines sistemos ir technologijos, UAB

15/09/2014

Allocation date to RO.INFINITY - 2014-07-18 

 

>From IFN PAWN collection to ro.infinity : 

Original Block                    Transferred Blocks           From
To                                        Date

185.85.180.0/22               185.85.180.0/22               IFN PAWN
COLLECTION SRL         Infinity Telecom SRL       10/04/2015

 

Allocation date to : IFN Pawn for 185.85.180.0/22 was on 2015-01-27

 

The LIR for IFN Pawn is no longer active … 

 

If you claim that the issue is, that you have a shortage of IP space …. Why
are you selling the /22 that was originally allocated to your own LIR to a
company in Italy ? 

 

Or is it because you don’t like it that this proposal will stop you from
starting new LIR’s in dummy companies .. to be able to transfer the space to
other LIR’s .. ? 

 

I think that your comments make it very clear why this proposal should be
implemented .. But maybe I’m missing something … 

 

Regards,

Erik Bais 

 

 

Van: address-policy-wg [mailto:address-policy-wg-bounces at ripe.net] Namens
Infinity Telecom SRL
Verzonden: donderdag 23 april 2015 12:19
Aan: address-policy-wg at ripe.net
Onderwerp: [address-policy-wg] Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations

 

Hello,


If this proposal will be accepted:
<https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-01>
https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2015-01

The price per IP found at "IPv4 Transfer Listing Service"  will be double or
even worst.

Little companies will be out of business.. and we will be one of them.

To pay double or even more for some spammed IP..  its not a good choice..
only because smart guys with no real internet business hold very large
blocks

This proposal should have more time, its not like any other proposal, this
can affect activity for a lot of small companies.


Thank you.


-- 
Cu stima,
Gabriel Voitis | Sales Manager
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