[address-policy-wg] [ncc-services-wg] Crimea papers

Hello,

I do not like civil wars, wars or similar events, however, shell we punish
LIRs because they work in an area of conflict?

Defnitely not.

Shall we punish the end users?

Definitely not.

Shell we discuss at RIPE lists the political or military conflicts?

Definitely not.

I fully agree with Axel Pawlik and Richard Hartmann.

Thnkx,

Géza




On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:04 PM, ksyu at netassist.ua <ksyu at netassist.ua>
wrote:

> lets see this article
>
> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=
> uriserv:OJ.L_.2014.226.01.0002.01.ENG
>
>
> 29.07.2014 16:45, Richard Hartmann пишет:
>
>  Dmitriy, all,
>>
>>
>> as has been stated repeatedly, this is not the place for this discussion.
>>
>> The initial question was "will RIPE NCC hand resources to a LIR in
>> Crimea, based on Russian papers" and the clear answer is "if said
>> papers establish the existence of the LIR and substantiate the LIR's
>> claims, yes".
>>
>>
>> I am sure many people hold strong opinions on the topic of Crimea, but
>> neither RIPE NCC nor RIPE community is the place to discuss this
>> topic. Does this, and other, situations suck? Yes. Can RIPE NCC do
>> anything about it? No.
>>
>>
>> As Gert pointed out, what you seem to be arguing for is basically a
>> punishment for any Crimean LIRs for being located in a region of
>> conflict. What would that achieve? About as much as the current
>> discussion.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> PS: There have been and are other conflict regions within RIPE region;
>> those are not punished for being in the wrong place, either.
>>
>> PPS: You are free to try and submit a PDP and/or bring the topic up at
>> a RIPE meeting, but don't expect consensus.
>>
>>
>
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> С ув. Ксения Сокол
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