[address-policy-wg] 2013-06 New Policy Proposal (PA/PI Unification IPv6 Address Space)
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Nick Hilliard
nick at inex.ie
Mon Sep 30 22:39:28 CEST 2013
On 30/09/2013 18:00, Tore Anderson wrote: > All existing PI holders would become simultaneously both the LIR *and* > the End User in the above chain, so I'm not sure where this confusion > would come from? So how could you convince the existing ipv6 PI holders that the cost increase from €50/year to LIR membership fees would be worth it? IOW, there are two problems here: an addressing flavour issue, which relates to the RIPE community, and a billing issue which is the responsibility of the RIPE NCC. For sure, you couldn't do this to just the ipv6 PI assignments - it would have to be to all address space, but then you get into the thorny issue of billing. Let me pull out a paper napkin for a moment and hand-wave the possibility that all PI holders became LIRs and all LIRs paid the same fees. The 2014 budget is €21.7m (practical). All LIRs pay the same (ncc member policy). There are about 9500 members and 33000 assigned pi resources (reality), probably with lots of overlap (reasonable speculation). Let's pluck a figure out of thin air and say that there are 35000 distinct end users + lirs (wild speculation), who need to pay an equal share of a budget of €21.7 million. This means you have maybe 25000-30000 organisations around the ripe ncc service region who are going to see their fees increase from (wholesale) €50 to €650 per annum. This won't fly. We need to be practical about a workable policy proposal here. Whether we like it or not, there is a strong history of cost differentiation in terms of how ip addresess are handled, and I don't see a practical way of levelling the field within the constraints of what's workable and what we'd ultimately like. Nick
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