[address-policy-wg] 2013-06 New Policy Proposal (PA/PI Unification IPv6 Address Space)

Hi APWG,

> 5.1.2 Initial Allocation Size
> Allocations made by the RIPE NCC to the LIR have a minimum allocation size of a /32 and may be up to a /29 with no additional documentation required.
> Allocations made by the RIPE NCC to the End User have a minimum allocation size of a /32.
RIPE NCC reserves a /29 for every /32 allocation, right?
So even End Users would "occupy" a /29 even if many of them would
forever be satisfied with a /48?
This is god news for the routing table as only prefixes size are going
to change if End Users grow their networks. (Unlike in IPv4, were
grows often implied new routes popping up).


Elvis Velea wrote:
> Creating different levels/limits will complicate the policy again and our aim was to make it as simple as possible.
I like the proposals simplicity and I support the proposal from what I
have read so far.

Tore Anderson wrote:
> Then you would have only one path and no confusion:
>   RIR[RIPE NCC] -> LIR -> End User
I would support this if there is a way to eliminate the distinction of
PI/PA in IPv4 too. In fact, with the initial proposal End Users are
becoming IR in the moment they hand out their first address to a
customer. The question is: How can we back off from those who *love*
their Sponsoring LIR for doing all the "international RIPE stuff" and
those who are eager to share some of their address space with
friends/neighbors/customers? There should not arise any new
requirement from a change like this for those who just want their
network numbered without having to deal with international contracts
but there should be new options for those who like to do IR things.
RPKI, for example, is something the more tech-savy End Users are
missing today.

Nick Hilliard wrote:
> So how could you convince the existing ipv6 PI holders that the cost
> increase from €50/year to LIR membership fees would be worth it?
Speaking for me, not possible. Other small enterprises probably think the same.
I think we should provide some strong incentive to become a LIR
eventually. If the price jumps from 50EUR/yr to 1800EUR/yr business
will ask what it gets for the extra money.


BTW, I suggest renaming End User to SIR (Sponsored Internet Registry).
A SIR could re-allocate its address space and/or just number their
enterprise network with it.

Cheers

Dan

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