[address-policy-wg] 2013-06 New Policy Proposal (PA/PI Unification IPv6 Address Space)
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Elvis Velea
elvis at velea.eu
Tue Oct 1 11:17:38 CEST 2013
Hi Roger, On 10/1/13 9:43 AM, Roger Jørgensen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Sascha Luck <lists-ripe at c4inet.net> wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:22:52PM +0200, Elvis Velea wrote: >>> >>> There are only two paths, from the RIPE NCC to LIR and from the RIPE NCC >>> to End user (we may decide to change the name) via the Sponsoring LIR. >> >> >> I would be in favour of converting all resources into "independent >> resources" and the path going, in all cases: >> >> RIR -> Sponsoring LIR -> End User. [...] > You're talking about a quite radical changes to how we think of IP space. Correct, current proposal is quite a radical change. However, it does not change much the reality today. Companies do request /48 PI assignments saying that they will use it only for their infrastructure and then start giving bits of it to customers without actually registering the assignment/sub-allocation and basically violating the policy. > What you're hinting at are not that difficult from something we're discussing > on IETF level, and in the concept of LISP. Get a new block of address space > that will be distributed directly to end-users. It's just IP space. > LISP is a totally different story. Let's not mix them up, please :-) > It do include a tons of pitfalls and difficult consideration, alot. > > > On the other hand, what is the real difference from what you're suggestion > and what current reality are? The LIR "concept"? The LIR concept is a well defined concept. Based on the discussions on this list in the past few days I do realise that we need to define the previously known PI user and I see that the term 'End User' does not match with the role. cheers, elvis
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