[address-policy-wg] saving v4 space for new entrants
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Marcin Kuczera
marcin at leon.pl
Wed Feb 6 15:43:56 CET 2013
On 2013-02-06 15:32, Erik Bais wrote: >> Debating how we might make the dregs of v4 space last a little bit longer does seem to me to be like rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic after the iceberg hit. > Having a deckchair or not, might become a topic if you see there is no room left on the lifeboats and you are looking for a floatation device ... presuming that they deckchairs are made from wood and will float .. > Or if you want to do the sit and wait game, while everyone else is in panic and jumps. > > Anyway .. back to the topic .. > > If we are actually 'care about allowing new entrants', there might be another topic to look into which isn't covered in the current policy for the final /8. > > And that is the fact that it is allowed to merge LIR's that have been assigned an allocation from the final /8. > > Currently there are already 6 LIR's to my knowledge that have been merged that now have 2 or more 185.x.y.z /22's ... > I've been hearing several discussions in the grapevines from parties that are already low on IP space to use that loop-hole to setup new LIR's, merge them and repeat. > > To me, I think that we should cut off this route asap, otherwise we might as well hand out the final /8 as if any other /8 .. and be done with it ... There will be allways such possibility, even if you say that LIRs that are closed shorter than i.e. 5 years after creation have to return addresses - this might be still cheaper to pay 1,8keuro/year than to buy addresses on market. 2keuro + 1.8euro/4 (just one quarter) = 2450 euro for 1024 IP = 2.4 euro per IP. Market price varies from 20$ to 10$ (depending on prefix size, smaller - more expansive). So maybe 5 years blocking period is a good idea as this will be allways money case ? Regards, Marcin > > Btw.. anyone in need of a deckchair ? Just bring some whiskey and cigars .. let's sit down and watch the show unfold. > > Regards, > Erik Bais >
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