[address-policy-wg] concept document: IPv6 PA/PI unification
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Gert Doering
gert at space.net
Sat Oct 29 22:51:43 CEST 2011
Hi, On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 04:56:40PM +0200, Martin Millnert wrote: > On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 19:16 +0200, Gert Doering wrote: > > * yearly recurring cost "per block of numbers", independent of size(!), > > reflecting the cost of handling the address space request, documentation, > > RIPE database, etc., which increase if you need "many blocks" > > > This was an interesting suggestion. > > Going straight for the details of one point, I wonder, what's the most > fair way to reflect the handling cost of an address space request? I see your point, and I'm buy no way insisting on "every block costs the same". The reason why I proposed to do it this way is to discourage large-scale ISPs from going for "we give all our customers a single /128 each, so we can run the whole country-wide network on a /48 and save lots of money!". We *want* them to give /56s (or such) to customers, and if there's a monetary penalty for doing so - is this the right message to send? (OTOH, depending on the final numbers, the per-block-per-year price might be low enough to make this all uninteresting - if it's "50 EUR per /48, 100 EUR per /32, 200 EUR for /28 or bigger", the financial incentive is not that strong). > So I guess I disagree with your conclusion from the arguments you > iterated over. What about the "encourage ISPs to give end-users a reasonably-sized network" argument? > Out-of-the-box counter-proposal: > IPRA interacting work (including address space requests) == > [IPRA hour fee] * [IPRA-time spent on application], > Infrastructure cost sharing (yearly recurring cost) == > [RIPE NCC specific registry / IPRA related costs] > ----------------------------------------- > number of LIRs at billing year end (*) I'm not sure I get that formula - are you dividing everything by number of LIRs, so everybody pays the same price? (Now that would be simple :) ). Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 306 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://lists.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/attachments/20111029/2141e0d2/attachment.sig>
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