[address-policy-wg] concept document: IPv6 PA/PI unification

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 04:56:40PM +0200, Martin Millnert wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-10-28 at 19:16 +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
> >     * yearly recurring cost "per block of numbers", independent of size(!),
> >       reflecting the cost of handling the address space request, documentation, 
> >       RIPE database, etc., which increase if you need "many blocks"
> 
> 
> This was an interesting suggestion.  
> 
> Going straight for the details of one point, I wonder, what's the most
> fair way to reflect the handling cost of an address space request?

I see your point, and I'm buy no way insisting on "every block costs the
same".

The reason why I proposed to do it this way is to discourage large-scale
ISPs from going for "we give all our customers a single /128 each, so
we can run the whole country-wide network on a /48 and save lots of
money!".  We *want* them to give /56s (or such) to customers, and if
there's a monetary penalty for doing so - is this the right message to
send?

(OTOH, depending on the final numbers, the per-block-per-year price
might be low enough to make this all uninteresting - if it's "50 EUR
per /48, 100 EUR per /32, 200 EUR for /28 or bigger", the financial 
incentive is not that strong).

> So I guess I disagree with your conclusion from the arguments you
> iterated over.

What about the "encourage ISPs to give end-users a reasonably-sized
network" argument?

> Out-of-the-box counter-proposal:  
>   IPRA interacting work (including address space requests) ==
>     [IPRA hour fee] * [IPRA-time spent on application],
>   Infrastructure cost sharing (yearly recurring cost) ==
>    [RIPE NCC specific registry / IPRA related costs]
>     -----------------------------------------
>        number of LIRs at billing year end (*)

I'm not sure I get that formula - are you dividing everything by
number of LIRs, so everybody pays the same price?  (Now that would be
simple :) ).

Gert Doering
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