[address-policy-wg] RIPE (NCC) engagement with LEA and government
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Jim Reid
jim at rfc1035.com
Thu Jun 2 13:05:13 CEST 2011
On 2 Jun 2011, at 10:20, Gert Doering wrote: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 10:11:10PM +0000, Sascha Luck wrote: >> the fact that NCC had a happy-clappy "very cordial" meeting with >> SOCA (yes, the Internet is Serious and Organised Crime in the UK) >> makes me wonder. About what Sacha? Do you think it's a Bad Idea for the NCC to engage with law enforcement and have a good relationship with them? If so, why? FYI SOCA currently has responsibility for dealing with computer crime in the UK. From a practical point of view, this is very helpful. For example, there's a single point of contact and a clear process to follow, both for the NCC and the cops. The NCC doesn't have to deal with local UK law enforcement or figure out if a request from Detective Sherlock Holmes of Strathclyde Police is genuine or not. We've also had SOCA come to the co-op WG at RIPE meetings a few times, something we should welcome and encourage because that helps develop mutual understanding. I wish other LEAs would do this too. > One of the tasks the NCC is mandated by the NCC members to do is > "make sure > that the governments of our region understands how the Internet works, > how Internet self-regulation works, and that it's better to leave us > alone". This is why those good people attend ITU meetings, meet with > LEAs, etc. - to make sure those "political accidents" that everybody > is > afraid of do *not* happen. Exactly! > There's serious dangers here, like "why should a private entity be > allowed > to rule address governance in Europe? The european commission and the > national governments are much better suited to do that!" - and the NCC > works togethe with these folks to make them see that our way *works* > and > we need no extra regulation... I'd express this a little more diplomatically Gert. [What?! Me diplomatic?! :-)] By engaging with governments, regulators and LEAs, we can show how their concerns about the usual public interest things -- fairness, transparency, consumer confidence, monopoly considerations, etc -- are being addressed and that the mechanisms which are in place are satisfactory to deal with those issues. Followups on this thread probably should move to the co-op WG list.
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