[address-policy-wg] Reopening discussion on RIPE Policy Proposal 2006-05

Hello Jeroen,

It was a reaction based on the message Per did write. If you compare IP
addresses to phone numbers: compare everything and not just the part you
like.

With kind regards,

Mark Scholten

-----Original Message-----
From: address-policy-wg-admin at ripe.net
[mailto:address-policy-wg-admin at ripe.net] On Behalf Of Jeroen Massar
Sent: zaterdag 25 juli 2009 23:45
To: Stream Service || Mark Scholten
Cc: 'Per Heldal'; 'Nick Hilliard'; address-policy-wg at ripe.net
Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] Reopening discussion on RIPE Policy
Proposal 2006-05

Stream Service || Mark Scholten wrote:
> Hello Per,
> 
> That would mean that ALL Ip addresses could be taken to another 
> provider/network and that it works. For example if a client has a /24 
> PA and they go to another network they need the option to take it with
them.

This is why PI exists. Try using that as has been suggested already several
times by other people.

> At
> least if you compare it to phone number portability in the Netherlands.

If you are going to compare IP addresses to phone numbers, then you have to
make the Internet work like the Phone system, which would basically mean a
'flow based' routing system: at connect time get the destination, store this
and presto keep on using that.

This does not work for the Internet as routes change (for phone you get a
disconnect when a route changes due to a fiber cut or some other such event.

For the Internet, where a sender could just start spewing packets to a
million destinations, and possibly from a million sources, flow-based
routing does not work, take a small guess why.


Also, this is a POLICY list, not a TECHNICAL PROPOSAL list, for the latter
there is the IRTF, note the R for Research, as the IETF is not even ready
for these kind of changes (rrg WG comes in mind though).

Greets,
 Jeroen