[address-policy-wg] The final /8 policy proposals, part 2

Masataka sama and all,

  I agree that NAT's are inevitable and are also a means by which
the more efficient use of IP addresses can ( should? ) be realized.

Masataka Ohta wrote:

> Gert Doering wrote:
>
> >>>Even with reclamation
> >>>efforts, eventually we will reach the last /8,
>
> Assuming your point above is on topic, I don't think so.
>
> > There is no mandate to use NAT in the RIPE region (and I think that this
> > is a good thing, as NAT might be useful, but overall it takes away freedom
> > from the Internet users, and this shouldn't be forced on anybody).
>
> OK.
>
> I'll come back later after finishing a proposal of "end to end NAT",
> which has end to end transparency to be able to support ftp port
> command, SCTP, IPsec, DNS reverse look up, multicast, mobility and
> so on.
>
> > If the RIPE community wants to force NAT on people, well, they can of
> > course change the policy.
>
> As DRC wrote:
>
> : It isn't about creating more addresses.  It is about using the  existing
> : addresses more efficiently.  Given the widespread  availability of NAT,
> : how many addresses does the average organization  actually need? Two
> : (one for their NAT gateway, one for their publicly  available
> : services)?  Particularly if they have a financial incentive  to
> : use address space more efficiently?
>
> I think use of NAT in the future is inevitable and want fairness
> between policies today and in the future.
>
>                                                         Masataka Ohta

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