[address-policy-wg] The final /8 policy proposals, part 2

Hi,

On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 10:46:36PM +0900, Masataka Ohta wrote:
> Gert Doering wrote:
> 
> > Please stick to the topic of *this* discussion.  Even with reclamation
> > efforts, eventually we will reach the last /8,
> 
> Why?
> 
> Assuming reduction of address space consumption by mandating NAT,
> I can't understand how the last /8 could be reached before IPv4
> will be replaced by something not likely to be IPv6.
> 
> Could you elaborate?

There is no mandate to use NAT in the RIPE region (and I think that this
is a good thing, as NAT might be useful, but overall it takes away freedom
from the Internet users, and this shouldn't be forced on anybody).

If the RIPE community wants to force NAT on people, well, they can of
course change the policy.  But in the policy as it is now, there is 
nothing that can force NAT on anybody.   Given this, and given the
growth of Internet in less-developed regions, yes, it is very likely
that we'll reach the last /8.  And soon.


> > and *this* discussion is
> > only covering the rules for the last /8.
> 
> I don't think it off topic to discuss whether there will be the
> last /8 or not.

By decree of the WG chair it is off-topic *in this discussion thread*.

It is not off-topic on the list per se, but to keep some semblance of
structure, *this* thread needs to focus on a very specific question.


> It is a fair counter argument against a policy proposal on the
> last /8 to say there won't be the last /8.

Yes.  But this specific discussion thread is about a very specific aspect
of the proposal.  Since we have different last-/8-Proposals on the table,
we're trying to merge them into a common proposal, which you can then be
opposed to.  

But please do this in a new discussion thread with a new Subject: line.

Gert Doering
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