Ha: [address-policy-wg] RE: an arithmetic lesson
Remco van Mook Remco.vanMook at eu.equinix.com
Thu Dec 3 23:21:04 CET 2009
Gert, here's a hard one - if all new allocations in IPv6 are now going to be /24s, don't you think that will affect the charging scheme since it vastly increases the average amount of address space allocated, therefore lowering the amount that would be charged for such a resource? All of a sudden that large block is just an average size; while I don't claim to understand all the intricacies of the charging scheme I will claim that handing out a larger block isn't necessarily more work than handing out a smaller one, and the way the charging scheme works is not to maximize income, but to match the sum of expenses the NCC makes in order to provide their services. Not that I'm looking for an argument to increase the 'standard' allocation size, but the charging scheme isn't a good argument against, I think. Remco (There were also 2 million Class C blocks, that doesn't make it a good idea to hand out IPv6 in a similar way. Party like it's 1993 stopped in well, 1994.) -----Original Message----- From: Gert Doering [mailto:gert at Space.Net] Sent: donderdag 3 december 2009 23:12 To: David Conrad Cc: Remco van Mook; tme at multicasttech.com; DMenzulskiy at beeline.ru; michael.dillon at bt.com; address-policy-wg at ripe.net Subject: Re: Ha: [address-policy-wg] RE: an arithmetic lesson Hi, On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 10:33:17AM -0800, David Conrad wrote: > Allocating IPv6 /24 now when we have "plenty" of IPv6 address > space because it makes a particular protocol proposal more convenient > is, in my view, simply repeating history. It is _the equivalent > of_ allocating "class As". The math *and* the economics disagree with you. IPv4 class A have been limited to 127 pieces, and they came for free. There's 2 million IPv6 /24s inside FP001, and they come with a yearly price tag, so "not everybody or their dog" are going to ask for one (and, as I said, I know at least one LIR who is most definitely not going to ask for one - so not even every LIR that does deploy IPv6 wants a /24). Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 144438 SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (89) 32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 This email is from Equinix Europe Limited or one of its associated/subsidiary companies. This email, and any files transmitted with it, contains information which is confidential, may be legally privileged and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this email immediately. Equinix Europe Limited. Registered Office: Quadrant House, Floor 6, 17 Thomas More Street, Thomas More Square, London E1W 1YW. Registered in England and Wales No. 6293383.