[address-policy-wg] Millions of Internet Addresses Are LyingIdle
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Shane Kerr
shane at time-travellers.org
Thu Oct 16 12:07:04 CEST 2008
Jeffrey, On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 03:54 -0700, Jeffrey A. Williams wrote: > > > > Reclaiming unused IPv4 space is very expensive. The RIR system was never > > designed with reclamation in mind, and fear or selfishness on the part > > of existing participants has prevented even small moves towards fixing > > this (see discussions of 2007-01 for more insight). > > Sorry I don't except you premise that reclaiming unused IPv4 space is very > expensive. The current work for allocating IPv4 space is: * Verify requester needs space * Search the available list for space To reclaim space, one must do something like: * Find space one thinks might be available * Figure out the contact for the space * Request the space from said contact * Handle cases where contact is unavailable or uncooperative * "Decontaminate" space for a while (optional but recommended) * Put space on the available list Someone has to do all of these tasks, and the timelines can be quite long. I am *not* saying it is impossible, only that it is a lot more work than what we have today. And that work is what will make it expensive. > > The > > idea of a market may help to lower these costs (or not), but the costs > > will still be there. Any time you see a change in a fundamental resource > > after decades of relatively low cost, there will be economic upset(*). > > I agree very generally with your last sentence here. Not your first, > however. Any "Market" where IP address space is auctioned off > like a comodity will early on sore in price, than maybe later graduate > down or flatten out. But this depends if the "Market" is regulated or > not, and if so, how it is regulated, whom is the regulator, and how > diligent that or those regulators are to adhering to the yet to be > determined regulations by which that "Market" operates under. I do not believe a market will actually solve the shortage problem. I do believe there already is a market, and it is better to record who is responsible for addresses rather than make an even bigger mess than the current system. -- shane
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