[address-policy-wg] 2007-08 New Draft Document Published (Enabling Methods for Reallocation of IPv4 Resources)
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Jeffrey A. Williams
jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Wed Oct 8 03:01:57 CEST 2008
Michael and all, AgainI fully agree with Michael here.... michael.dillon at bt.com wrote: > > > It is contrary to the goals of this document > > > and is not in the interests of the Internet > > > community as a whole for address space to be > > > considered freehold property. > > > > Why should an IPv4 policy document take IPv6 policy documents > > into account? "Different circumstances". > > Same stakeholders. Same organization. And the statement does not > make any distinction between the two versions of IP. > > > > 2007-08 should be rejected because no consensus has been formed and > > > > This is exactly the point of a "v3" of this document: take > > into account previous discussions and comments, and try > > finding a consensus on the reworked document. > > > > The argument "I reject this version because no consensus was > > formed on a previous version" is not a very useful > > contribution, in itself - if you have specific issues with > > *v3* (or your concerns about v1 and v2 are still > > un-addressed), please voice them. > > When there is a huge lack of consensus in favour of a policy > proposal, that proposal should be abandoned. It goes against > consensus to continually make small changes to the proposal > and extend the whole process by months or years. This does not > help the stakeholders in RIPE and I do not believe that this > is what people expect from the WG chairs. > > But you asked for specific issues. Let's start with ETNO's > concerns that a transfer system cannot ensure a process that > is open, transparent and equitable. By opening the door to > private negotiations and agreements between LIR's, you will > have destroyed the very foundation of RIPE, which is openness, > transparency and fairness. > > Eric Schmidt feels that transfers open up more possibilities > for abuse. This is what happens when you allow for secret > agreements. > > Jay Daley says that reclaim/reuse could be more efficient than > transfers. This is quite likely when you consider that the entire > free pool must be in RIPE's hands, therefore there is the greatest > possibility of aggregation of blocks, by rejecting 2007-08 and > keeping the current system. > > Per Heldal mentions legal implications for RIPE. Clearly one of > those is the conflict between the statement of principle in the > IPv6 policy, and the enabling of transfers for IPv4. How will the > courts react to numbers which are freehold property, and others > which are not? > > Edited versions of the policy proposal cannot fix these issues. > > --Michael Dillon > Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 281k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827
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