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[address-policy-wg] 2007-01 Last Call for Comments(Direct Internet Resource Assignments to End Users from the RIPE NCC)
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Jeroen Massar
jeroen at unfix.org
Tue Apr 8 17:27:55 CEST 2008
Sander Steffann wrote:
[..]
>> i will give you 10000 bucks and during 100 years it will not what your
>> problem, what the block became.
>
> It still remains a problem. This proposal is not about the money. It is
> about responsible stewardship of internet resources. The way provider
> independent resources are handled now it is impossible to follow what is
> happening to those resources. Resources that are not in use anymore are
> lost because there is no way to check this, while other organisations
> might need those resources.
>
> Policy proposal 2007-01 was introduced to solve this problem. With a
> contract between an LIR (or RIPE NCC) and the end user, we can follow
> the resource. We could check if it is still in use, if the usage still
> complies with the policies, etc.
All the resources RIR's provide though have amongst others the following
two properties:
a) no guarantee about the resources uniqueness
b) no guarantee that the resource can be used everywhere
And with this proposal another one comes along:
c) when one has a resource, there is no way to 'block' one from
using it even after no payment or voiding/expiry of contract.
Thus even if there is a contract and some cash involved, the moment that
the contract is not valid any more and/or the cash is not paid anymore,
the resource can still be used, because of a).
Domain Registries are really delegating, without that link from the TLD
one doesn't have a domain, it simply doesn't function (unless one
hijacks a rather large set of DNS servers around the world :)
For the RIR's though, there is currently not a real way to actually
enforce the contract or the payment, let alone that when the data is
invalid, that one can enforce that. This is good in one way (the whole
idea of the Internet) but bad in the way
Then again, one can today already simply take a prefix and simply use
it. It is at up to the ISP's who carry that prefix to accept it or not.
There are a couple of proposals that might (might as when ISPs want to
carry something they can and will do so) help enforce this a little bit
but require full cooperation:
- (S-)BGP(-S)
- Route Objects
- etc
But as the first is nearly unused that doesn't work. The second one is
used, but unfortunately not by the non-RIPE membership and it won't
provide full lockdown.
The only 'power' that a RIR has and can mostly enforce (unless an ISP
hijacks a resource and forces/gets others to accept it) though is
something they do on a daily basis: provide new resources.
As such, when for a resource under this, or another, policy, the
contract expired or the fees are not properly paid, but the resource is
kept in use, the RIR could block any new allocations to requesters who
do still allow the expired resource to exist and be used.
Detection of which can be done fully automated with RIS and similar
tools at thus virtually no additional cost. The RIR can then at least
ask the requester to contact their neighboring ISP to stop using an
expired resource.
This is playing cop a bit though, which is something that the RIRs
should avoid, but, in this case might be one of the few ways to resolve
the issue where someone sets up a contract one year and then simply
ignores it for the rest of their lives while keeping the use of the
resource. The contract though is legal, thus it might be possible to
also let the RIR go to court for these things.
Greets,
Jeroen
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