[address-policy-wg] DRAFT: RIPE Community Resolution on IPv4 Depletion and Deployment of IPv6
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Sascha Lenz
slz at baycix.de
Thu Oct 18 11:49:05 CEST 2007
Hi, Patrick Vande Walle schrieb: > Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Gert Doering: >> >>> 2) We urge network operators and Internet Service Providers >>> (ISPs) to deploy IPv6 across their networks as soon as possible. >>> This deployment must include providing IPv6 access to End Users >>> and ensuring services are accessible by IPv6. >>> >> Shouldn't this paragraph target RIPE members specifically? Or, put >> differently, why are end users and software vendors excluded? >> > Speaking as an end user, which probably does not qualify me as being > part of the "RIPE Community": > > Agree with Florian's comments, and I would add hardware vendors to the > list. As long as there are no commodity CPEs supporting IPv6, there is > no incentive for ISPs to deploy IPv6 to their end users, especially > those targetting the home users. > even though the statement cannot be more than political "blah-blah" without any real outcome :-), i want to join in that the wording SHOULD include at least vendors end end-suer, since they are the biggest problem (point of view: a Consultant). Probably "network operators" is meant to include end-users, but that's not clear enough. And i also see vendors as part of "the community" here, but probably they don't think they are addressed without explicitely mentioning it :-) ISPs won't start deploying IPv6 more widely without end-users requiring it and vendors have a full (as in COMPLETE, WORKING) set of IPv6 capable devices, including SOHO CPEs. ...heck, i already have one upstream explicitely SHUTTING DOWN its IPv6 (testbed) service (Allocation returned) without any production replacement since noone wants to have IPv6 connectivity...yes, big german business/resale ISP ... scary. -- ======================================================================== = Sascha Lenz SLZ-RIPE slz at baycix.de = = Network Operations = = BayCIX GmbH, Landshut * PGP public Key on demand * = ======================================================================== BayCIX GmbH * 84034 Landshut * Wagnergasse 8 Tel: +49 871 925360 * Fax: +49 871 9253629 eMail: technik at baycix.de GF: Thomas Zajac * HR B 4878 (Landshut)
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